The ability to flip clefs over or on the side

• Nov 3, 2019 - 03:46

Is it there and has someone cracked a way to do it?
Here are some examples from Bach’s Musical Offerring


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In reply to by FrombeettiMiz

For the barlines, you will need to first, disconnect the barlines by double clicking the barline on top and pressing ctrl while you drag the bottom of the line back to it's staff. You can then make the bottom bar line invisible by selecting it and pressing v. Finally, use the barlines palette and put a repeat barline where you want it. None of this will change playback, but it will look like what the publisher did.

You will need to use images for the upside down clefs and key signatures. You can use the screen capture tool with the DPI set to 360, then put the image into an editor like Paint that comes with Windows and flip the image before using it.

With all of these obscure old ways of notation, I keep coming back to the question of why to do this?

Is it not better to adapt works to modern forms of notation that are universally understood by current performers?

Isn't the purpose of notation to be able to communicate to the performer musical information and instructions in the most easily understood way? If some older and obscure technique is not easily understood by modern performers, what is the reason to recreate?

Also, a lot of these techniques were due to limitations of printing capabilities of publishers or formats that were used, not actually composer intent. So, this might further press this question.

In reply to by Daniel

@Daniel, just for an exchange of ideas...
In some countries it is being considered to eliminate the teaching of writing because everyone(?) uses a device to communicate.
It also addresses how to teach ethics to software for self-driving.
But some people may like to continue to do as they used to.
is a personal choice, questionable but not syndicable. As a friend said, maybe I'm really Jurassic ;-)

In reply to by Daniel

@Daniel : «adapt works to modern forms of notation» is just one way of proceeding, which has some advantages and fulfil some need. Reproducing the original source is a different way of proceeding which fulfil different needs; not to mention the fact that the "modern" equivalent of an old notation is not always unique or agreed upon by everybody.

«a lot of these techniques were due to limitations of printing capabilities of publishers or formats that were used, not actually composer intent». This might be true, but rarely; in most cases, notation and writing style evolved more or less in parallel.

And in any case, it is not true for the examples at hand: the way enigmatic canons are notated in the Musicalisches Opfer were an explicit Bach decision (which was already "antiquarian" at that time).

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