Mute slashes on playback?
I see this has been discussed many times before but I have tried all of the fixes suggested and I still get quarter note B naturals playing back in every bar I have slashes.
I created the slashes using the "Fill With Slashes" option from the Tools dropdown menu.
There are chord symbols on every bar, and melody information on some of the bars - they play back fine.
I tried selecting all the slash bars, opening the inspector ticking AND unticking PLAY (it was off by default).
I also tried all velocities from 0 to 1 to -127.
Nothing mutes the quarter note B.
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whoops, nevermind. it happens only in some of the parts. IMO stuff should carry through from the score to the parts......
In reply to whoops, nevermind. it… by funkygh
Now the melody won't play. This should be WAY simpler. Every pop or jazz arranger the world over needs the same thing - the slashes to be SILENT, and the notes and chords to be toggle-able on or off. Please clue me in.
In reply to Now the melody won't play… by funkygh
Do you mean something like attached?
First mute the notes (in selection range), then Tools/Slash
In reply to Do you mean something like… by Shoichi
No, when I play back your version the chords play as desired for the 1st 8 bars, but at letter a the chords, melody AND quarter note B's all play back. Also, I don't want stems on the slashes in the vocal stave - just slashes with like in a jazz rhythm section arrangement. Thanks for trying though.
You apparently did not use Tools > Toggle Rhythmic Slash Notation nor Fill With Slashes for those staves (just for the top one), but more likely a "select all similar in range" and changed head to slash and velocity to 0, this is regarded layout and as such does not propagate between sore and parts. So the Play property remained set and the 'Fix to line' one unset.
To be clear: if you use the actual supported facilities- Tools / Fill With Slashes, and Tools / Rhythmic Slash Notation - this all works simply and perfectly right out of the box. See the Handbook under "Tools" for more info. You're right, it's something everyone working in the pop world needs, that's why we provided this facility :-).
In reply to To be clear: if you use the… by Marc Sabatella
In principle I understand your point about how slashes are created, but for some reason, after I meddled around with the play settings in the inspector, they were still problematic - playing sometimes and sometimes not, and regular notes would not play. I was able to create 2 different states: 1. Everything playing - slashes, chord symbols and notes. 2. Only chords playing - no slashes or notes. For the life of me I could not make it so that only notes and chords would play.
The only way I was eventually successful was deleting the slashes in the lead sheet where the melody is written, and muting all the rhythm section (slash instruments) with the mixer.
I finally created a new score and cut and pasted everything across (slashes included) and then it behaved as you say it should.
I created the first score from an export out of Sibelius. Perhaps the slashes came across as notes, but oddly, cutting and pasting them from one MS score to another made them behave properly. Mysterious.
In any case, I can't find how one would create slashes with no stems in Musescore, other than with the "fill with slashes" command. I only find rhythmic notation (slashes with stems), which the fill with slashes command becomes automatically when a written phrase is selected. Am I missing something? Not that I need it because obviously it plays back slashes created in that manner, which I don't want. I'm just curious.
In reply to In principle I understand… by funkygh
Ah, import from MusicXML could change things, there might be hidden MIDI properties, and in any case, Sibelius doesn't really support slash notation directly so no surprise they wouldn't have exported it in the most ideal way either. if you attach the actual MusicXML and give us the precise steps to follow from there in order to reproduce the problem you are perceiving here, we can see if there is anything we should be doing differently. But in general, what you see in the Inspector is what you get, there really isn't any special magic. If you want something to play, make sure it's set to play in the Inspector; if you want it not to, make sure it isn't. I guess make sure you have an appropriate sound selected in the Mixer too.
You say you can't see how how to create slashes with no stems "other than fill with the slash slashes command" - why would you need another way? That's the whole point of that command - a direct and simple way to do exactly that. The rhythmic slash notation command is for different use case - when you want rhythms written in slashes with stems above or below the staff. Any given measure can have either or both, they are completely independent.
In reply to Ah, import from MusicXML… by Marc Sabatella
Exactly - there is no need for another way to create slashes. I was asking cause when I originally posted my score someone replied that the slashes had been created in another way than "Fill With Slashes". Only reason to know is so that I don't make the mistake of doing it another way in the future. Thanks.
In reply to Exactly - there is no need… by funkygh
Ah, OK. Yes, as it happens, currently everything that the Fill With Slashes command does can be done manually using the Inspector. It's just a matter of entering notes of the desired duration then using the Inspector to mark them as slash head, stemless, not playing, and fixed to the center line (4 for a normal 5-line staff). Also set to no beam using the Beam Properties palette. The "FIll With Slashes" simply automates all that. Many of the slashes in your example don't have all of these things set, that is how we know they weren't produced using Fill With Slashes. Well, either that or they were then modified to break some of the things the command had gone to the trouble of setting up.
In particular, the slashes on the piano staff were set to slash head and stemless, but the fix to line was not set (and thus they would transpose given a chance). They also weren't set to "no beam" - not an issue in 4/4 but is in meters where the slash unit is the eighth note. And, most importantly for your concern, they are set to play, so play they do!