Dynamics: Hairpins for bowed/wind instruments
I need to program a crescendo - decrescendo with Cellos and Horns in F which are holding single notes over multiple measures. I can draw it, but it won't play.
Musescore 362
Win7 x64
MuseScore_General.sf3
I have read the manual (dld 6/14/21), read the online How-To, combed the forum, verified my font is current enough, verified SND is enabled in all the right places, and anything else I could think of, twice.
I'm stumped. Have attached an example. According to my reading of the literature and discussions, this should work. This must be a PEBCAC! Where have I gone wrong?
Thanks for looking!
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Comments
Works for me. I tried the main piece then generated cello part.
OS: Ubuntu 21.04, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.6.2.548021370, revision: 3224f34
What is PEBCAC , is this something I should know about in order to improve my music? Or is it related to supratentorial problems?
In reply to Works for me. OS: Ubuntu 21… by underquark
So you heard cello2 and the horns gradually get louder in the first four measures? I do not. Try muting cello1 and listen again? For me, the velocity cruises along at the initial setting and then, blam!, in measure 5 everybody's MF (excepting cello1, which does swell).
Yes, a PEBCAC could be a supratentorial issue. It's an older IT support acronym used to covertly disparage a (usually) novice user, in this case myself!
In reply to So you heard cello2 and the… by zzwerzy
Welcome to the joys of working with fonts. I often have two scores for any piece. One to hand to real players and one that I mark to get playback like I want it. For your score I reset the horn dynamics from p to pp, and the mf to f.
In reply to Works for me. OS: Ubuntu 21… by underquark
PEBKAC: Problem Exist Between Keyboard And Chair
In reply to PEBKAC: Problem Exist… by Jojo-Schmitz
So, K, not C. I thought it might be Problem Exists Between Cerebrum and Computer (hence supratentoriell, oder oberhalb der Schleimhaut, die den Körper vom Gehirn trennt).
In reply to So, K, not C. I thought it… by underquark
Or just EBKAC, Error Between Keyboard And Chair.
Or Level 8 Error (from the 7 layer OSI model)
In reply to Or just EBKAC, Error Between… by Jojo-Schmitz
Level 8 - haha! In the auto trade it's called the "loose nut behind the steering wheel."
In reply to So, K, not C. I thought it… by underquark
I was using Problem Exists Between Chair and Computer - PEBCAC, But I like PEBKAC too.
Single note dynamics definitly work in general, and also for this score: Horn and the cellos have it switched on in Staff-/Instrument poperties and are using an expr. sound in Mixer and I can hear it on playback.
In reply to Single note dynamics… by Jojo-Schmitz
I am posting a simplified version of the "excerpt", "excerpt2", which removes cello1 to cut down on distractions.
When I play this sequence on my setup, the loudness of cello2 and the horns never change from their initial velocity over the first 4 measures. Then, at measure 5, boom!, full-on MF.
Surely, either something's wrong with my setup, or I have not stated the problem adequately.
Would you do me the kindness of examining this again? I submit that the hairpins in the first 4 measures are not functioning.
In reply to I am posting a simplified… by zzwerzy
You say you are using the MuseScore_General.sf3 soundfont? Have you verified this in the Synthesizer?
Using the Mixer, if you solo either of those instruments, can you then hear the single note dynamics?
In the Mixer, does 'Sound' show 'French Horns Expr.' and 'Cello Expr.' for those instruments?
In reply to You say you are using the… by Jm6stringer
> Have you verified this in the Synthesizer? Yes
> Using the Mixer, if you solo either of those instruments, can you then hear the single note dynamics? No
> In the Mixer, does 'Sound' show 'French Horns Expr.' and 'Cello Expr.' for those instruments? No and Bingo! - that was the problem.
Thank you, jm6stringer, for sussing it out!
Getting back to work...
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