Metric Modulation Playback Issue
Hi, everyone. I'm having an issue with modulating the meter and reverting it back to the original meter in the next measure. I have the first measure at 𝅘𝅥=𝅗𝅥, and practically anything I've tried in the second measure has either had no effect in the playback or is faster or slower than I want it to be.
Here's what I've tried on the second measure:
I should also note that in the playback, 𝅘𝅥=𝅗𝅥 and 𝅗𝅥=𝅘𝅥 have the same effect on the first measure, i.e. both are slower than the original tempo. Should this be the case?
Edit: I found out after further trials that 𝅘𝅥.=𝅗𝅥 is also slightly too fast. The picture has been edited to be more accurate.
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There's a fix for dotted quarter to eighth, in https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/10007 (for master, merger, so will be in MuseScoore 4) and https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/9000 (for 3.x).
The others should work though.
Mind to share the score?
Do check the Inspector on those (and toggle the "Follow Text", off and back on, a known issue). Did you take them from the palette or construct them on your own? At least some of those you must have build yourself, as they are not from the Tempo palette.
In reply to There's a fix for dotted… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hi Jojo,
I did use the original palette, and upon checking the inspector I found that there's a way to make the metric modulation notation not follow the tempo. It uses the same "Tempo Text". So maybe that will also help?
Now that I look at it, though, I changed the original tempo from 160BPM to 145BPM, so the second measure got stuck at 160BPM? I am using 𝅘𝅥.=𝅗𝅥, which may have worked out before I changed the tempo to 145BPM. I still don't know why it would work, though. It doesn't make sense to me, at least mathematically.
In reply to Hi Jojo, Thanks for the… by Just Your Aver…
"dotted quarter = half" is not on the palette
In reply to "dotted quarter = half" is… by Jojo-Schmitz
My mistake. I didn't realize that was what you meant by constructed. I thought it meant creating a whole new palette entirely. I did change the quarter note to a dotted quarter note by inserting 𝅘𝅥=𝅗𝅥 from the palette, and then inserting the augmented dot from the special characters.
In reply to My mistake. I didn't realize… by Just Your Aver…
That should work through
In reply to There's a fix for dotted… by Jojo-Schmitz
The score is very much not complete, I only started a few hours ago and just added the bassline and a bit of a riff. But I will share what I have so far.
Note: I did change the tempo again to 155 BPM and had the metric modulation measures (measures 102-103) recalculated so that they don't follow the original tempo text anymore.
In reply to The score is very much not… by Just Your Aver…
155 to 310 is correct though, doubleing the tempon on quarter = half, your manual override of 116.25 is not
And the next then, dotted quarter = half, the same, your 155 is not correct, the automatically calculated 413.33 is
Well, at least "quarter to quarter" is not supposed to have any effect.
I just did this:
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Defeult temp os a score is 120. The 1st modulation makes it 60, seems correct (1/2). The 2nd makes it 90, seems correct to (1/3 more), the last makes it 120 again, seems corect too (1/4 more)
In reply to I just did this: [inline… by Jojo-Schmitz
I just tried that on a new score, and in the inspector all of the modulations just stuck to the same tempo during playback.
In reply to I just tried that on a new… by Just Your Aver…
As said: toggle the "Follow text", off and back on.
As said, known issue, see #277320: Metric modulations AKA relative tempos don't set tempo right
In reply to As said: toggle the "Follow… by Jojo-Schmitz
I think I got it now! So the metric modulation is always set at 120 BPM (default tempo) by default, and I need to click the checkmark on "Follow Text" twice in order for it to be calculated. And because of this I got 𝅘𝅥=𝅗𝅥 and 𝅗𝅥=𝅘𝅥 backwards.
Also, if I change the original tempo, the metric modulation needs to be recalculated by clicking the checkmark twice once more.
Thanks for your help!
In reply to As said: toggle the "Follow… by Jojo-Schmitz
This is still the case in 4.1, but it's an easy thing to remember to toggle it. Thanks for the workaround.