Purcell Harpsichord ornaments
looking to get the single and double lines above below and around notes. I can get the single line, but I'm having trouble with the double.
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Do you have another source? That doesn't look at all like a published edition, and nor like any notation I'd have expected to see in the period. I assume this was produced by some well-intention user of some notation software who might not have known how to copy what they were seeing. It would be good to see the actual notation that this particular user was trying to copy. Then you can try to copy the original instead of the copy.
In reply to Do you have another source? … by Marc Sabatella
Other "editions" here: https://imslp.org/wiki/Air_in_C_major_(Blow%2C_John)
In reply to Other "editions" here: https… by graffesmusic
Any editions earlier that this millennium? Preferably 17th century,
In reply to Any editions earlier that… by underquark
Manuscript in British Library.
But not online, see https://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/
In reply to Other "editions" here: https… by graffesmusic
Yes, I saw those, but don't particularly trust them either. Still, they kind of demonstrate my point. The first shows an ordinary grace note & mordent, not these strange looking lines. Making me think the person who created the original line simply didn't what those were and just drew in some lines instead.
In reply to Yes, I saw those, but don't… by Marc Sabatella
I agree. Not even sure there were ornaments in the original at all. improvisations were normal in Baroque period, so i have been told
In reply to I agree. Not even sure there… by graffesmusic
That is my understanding, also. Not unusual to perform lots of improvised ornaments. And different each time.
In reply to Yes, I saw those, but don't… by Marc Sabatella
They were standard symbols for ornaments in the 16th and 17th century England. The "ordinary" mordent is a French ornament.
Sorry these were my attempts to get the right ornaments as I read them from the Boxhall method.
In reply to Sorry these were my attempts… by SRaybourne
French music has some line like ornaments:
![Hotteterre - table of agréments.png]( "Hotteterre - table of agréments.png")
source: https://getd.libs.uga.edu/pdfs/henke_stephanie_m_201212_dma.pdf p. 48
See also the post of Miwarre https://musescore.org/en/node/295913
Miwarre writes: "One of the major areas missing are the Baroque French ornaments which, once implemented (even partially) would cover more or less all the other Baroque ornament notations (primarily Italian)."
Edit:
See also line ornaments in https://www.smufl.org/version/1/range/otherBaroqueOrnaments/ and https://www.smufl.org/version/1/range/commonOrnaments/
In reply to French music has some line… by MichLeon
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
This is what the original looked like from the book
In reply to This is what the original… by SRaybourne
Maybe this could help - from Howard Ferguson's book 'Keyboard interpretation'.
![Purcell - Rules for Graces.png]( "Purcell - Rules for Graces.png")
See also the attached file about ornaments as performed by the virginalists.
Edit: and for Purcell: Purcell - Emended Rules for Graces.pdf
In reply to Maybe this could help - from… by MichLeon
I'm glad that everyone agrees that they are in fact real ornaments. Now the question is, how do we notate them in MuseScore?
In reply to I'm glad that everyone… by SRaybourne
Go in the Symbol Palette to 'Other baroque ornaments' : Oblique and double oblique straight lines, up or down. Other Purcell ornaments may demand combinations of single elements.
For still missing ornaments: start a discussion on https://www.smufl.org/
Edit: the Bravura font in MuseScore is the very first SMUFL compliant font.