How to change playback tempo in MuseScore 4 without adding "Tempo Markings" to sheet

• Jan 2, 2023 - 21:46

I am wondering how to edit tempo in one quick way. Choosing "pallete", then adding "tempo markings" then write the tempo which i want is really too much to do for such simple task.
Is there a way to just edit this one small thing using even a mouse scroll or something?
I've marked (screen on the attachment) a place which i mean in my above description

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Select the dots on the left and pull the toolbar down a bit to undock it and reveal a Tempo slider adjustment. Note that this only affects playback of the score for this session. Without tempo marks the score defaults to 120 BPM.

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I now understand how to edit the playback tempo percentage just for the one session. But that just temporarily changes it to a percentage of a permanently set tempo, and doesn't edit the permanent tempo at all (it's not saved, and will go back to 100% of the original tempo when re-loaded). How do I edit the actual tempo, not just the percentage, without putting tempo markings on the page? I know it can be set when you initially create a new file, but I need a way to simply edit that initial setting.

In reply to by mikefreeman

It would be nice to be able to edit the tempo, though, without adding something to the score itself.

Hmm...
Isn't that what the tempo slider on the play panel does - tell MuseScore to change the playback tempo "without adding something to the score itself"?
If you wish to change the tempo "permanently" - i.e., for all "sessions" - only then does the tempo marking in the score itself need to be edited. That's how composers instruct musicians who play from their notation.

However...
If you already have tempo markers and wish to apply a change to their playback 'speed' consider this plugin:
https://musescore.org/en/project/tempostretch
When using the plugin...
For text tempo markers like 'Largo', the change is made to playback speed only. The text remains 'Largo', so be careful you don't wind up with a 'Largo' (normally 50 bpm) playing at 200bpm... :-)
For numerical markers (quarter note = 80) the values are updated in the score automatically. This is nice when you have a score with multiple changes and wish to slow them all down or speed them all up. (Though the plugin does allow for selection of tempo markers in addition to acting score wide.)

In reply to by mikefreeman

Why would that make sense? If you want to hear a note, you add it the score. Why should tempo be any different? The people reading the score would generally like to know the tempo as well, so normally it doesn't make sense to hide it. but if you prefer to let the players pick their own tempo, that is indeed what making it invisible would be for. Just as you could make the notes invisible if you prefer people pick their own notes :-)

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Tempo markings on the page make sense for orchestra scores or professional-style performance environments. At the moment, I'm working with volunteer singers at a church who don't read music (they usually look at a lyric sheet and learn the song by wrote from a recording), and I want to do some simple introductions to note reading. Just the bare basics for now. The less clutter, the better. They don't understand what tempo markings mean at this point, and probably will never need to for our purposes. It would just create more questions than productivity for our purposes. I'm wanting to use the Musescore playback function to play through notes as they see them on the screen, as an educational tool. I can step through each note with the keyboard while they sing along with the notes they're reading and hearing, and then hit play and have it play through the whole thing, just as a practice tool. I want to be able to set the playback speed for the score to a moderately slow tempo for the entire time I'm using the file, over multiple sessions, without having to reset the tempo every single time the file loads. That means I want to save the tempo I've chosen for it. But I don't want it to appear on-screen. And even with the tempo markings made "invisible" with the V option, it's still there on the screen. I feel that it would make perfect sense that you could set and edit your own default tempos for any given file within the play functionality section of the program (since that's what the tempo is impacting when not set as a marking on the page), but then the tempo markings on the page will of course override that like they already do. That's what I was hoping was the case when I started this, anyway. I feel like that might be a good, flexible way to do this type of thing. I hope that makes sense. I know that's not the main purpose of Musescore. I tend to often do things "out of the box", so to speak. But I do understand if that's just not going to ever happen. My one volunteer training project isn't the mainstay of the developers, by any means.

In reply to by mikefreeman

I only can give hints what to do in MuS 3.6.2.:
Set the tempo marking and edit the value.
If you select it you can change the color of the marking to your sheet's color and then it is totally invisible but still there and working. If you click into the region where it was placed, it is highlighted and you can see it e.g. to modify it.

Other possibility: Set the font size of this marker to a very low value, e.g. 1pt. Then it looks like a dust fluff on the screen and is only visible with a large zoom factor.

You are talking about children? I don't think they will be confused by such a tempo indication. You explain it once and sooner or later they will encounter it anyway.

In reply to by mikefreeman

Not just orchestra or "professional-style performance environments" - the vast majority of music includes tempo markings. But I certainly get why in certain special cases, you might want to suppress them. So simply hide them as I said. You can disable the display of hidden elements view the View menu so they don't confuse anyone on screen. It's simple and completely effective.

Again, it really wouldn't make sense to have two competing ways of setting the actual tempo. What would happen if someone set both of them? What would happen if there were tempo changes during the course of the piece? It's just inviting confusion that is solved simply by simply having MuseScore obey standard rules of notation.

It's not exactly what OP asked, but it might be worth mentioning that it's possible to set descriptive tempo markers (eg. Adagio, Andante, etc.) to a specific BPM speed.

  1. click on tempo description
  2. select properties from left side menu
  3. set the desired playback tempo under "override written tempo"

I found it useful for having a score that gives more freedom of interpretation, compared to specific note=tempo notation, and it allows to easily sync a musescore screen capture to DAW audio files, in case one wants to create a score+audio video.

There are probably other workarounds, but this worked well for what I needed to do. Capture 1.JPG

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