First and second voice notes playing the same thing but the second voiced note goes first

• Aug 6, 2023 - 01:14

This is kind of rare but in Tchaikovsky's Souvenir de Florence, multiple times there is the first voiced note and second voiced note playing the same thing but the second voiced note is shown with a separate notehead in front of the first instead of the first voiced note and second voiced note sharing one notehead.

Watch this until 21 sec. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM7EQz-vl4s


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In reply to by Marc Sabatella

As Marc says, you need to use voices. The pitches are the same, with the two notes to be played as a double stop. The first voice is an open first E string (indicated by the fingering “o” above it) while the second voice plays the same pitch on the second (A) string. It’s easy to do and adds extra emphasis. Using two note heads is the clearest way of indicating this.

Edited to add that that I have played the violin for 40 years and that there is nothing strange about this notation.

In reply to by watermouth007

Or is that a harmonic marking? Probably not. Hard to tell. Since you can't get this to playback either way, I can't but wonder at the value of even trying. Just use a single note.
What? That's not what the composer wrote, you say. Consider that he would probable die all over again if he knew his music was being performed by a lifeless computer.

In reply to by watermouth007

The Handbook to use is the MuseScore one, of course - see the Help menu within MuseScore, or the Support menu ion the top of this site.

Imploding and exploding are more about situations where you are combining entire parts, not just single notes that are double-stops as your example appears to show.

In reply to by watermouth007

OP - look at my picture. OK, then you need to ask a violin player or a conductor and preferably show them a clearer picture of the score. Do those little 'o' s above the note indicate an open E string with the other E played on the A string, for instance? If so, then you need to use two voices to write it. Whether the two notes are played simultaneously or with a slight stagger is down to the interpretation of the player or conductor.

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