Is a Volta and a To Coda allowed on the same measure?
I have a volta and a To Coda on the same measure. Is this doomed not to work?
The volta just plays the measure in question and then skips it on the repeat to plays the next measure as intended (which has volta #2). Later in the score there is a D. C. al coda which takes it back to the start as expected but, of course, when playback reaches the measure with volta # 1, it skips it and doesn't see the To Coda so it just plays volta #2 measure and continues on through the rest of the piece. My intention is for the measure with volta #1 on it to play when playback gets to it from the D. C. al coda and then skip the intervening measures until the coda.
I tried updating the repeat list and the play count. It looks like this was going to work but then it ignored the D.C. al coda.
I could just write out the measure again after the coda but I feel like there is a better way that I just haven't been able to figure out.
The attached file just shows a screen shot of the measure with volta #1. I'm happy to post a MSCZ file if deeper analysis is needed.
Any suggestions?
Many thanks,
Peter
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Comments
For me a CODA is the end of a piece, so when you enter in the coda you must not find a symbol to go up at the begining of the piece . If you do that , it is not a coda .
In reply to For me a CODA is the end of… by Raymond Wicquart
I would put the To Coda before volta 1 and copy the contents of volta 1 to the start of the coda.
It never pays to try to be too clever with repeats and jumps. Keep it simple at the expense of duplication and you will save hours of rehearsal time that would otherwise be taken up by players asking how the structure works and then, even after being told, playing it incorrectly.
In reply to I would put the To Coda… by SteveBlower
Thanks for your comment.
You make a good point about how someone playing the piece might get confused about the structure. I did consider duplicating that measure but I wasn't sure if that was the best way to do it. That is likely the solution I will end up using.
In reply to For me a CODA is the end of… by Raymond Wicquart
Thanks for your comment.
Yes, Coda is at the end of the piece. I was referring to the measure that the D. C. al Coda plays to the end of after starting over from from the beginning of the piece - after this measure, playback skips over a portion of the score and continues at the coda and plays to the end of the piece, as you suggested.
The standard behavior after the D.C. (or D.S) al Coda is that Volta 1 is no longer played, but only Volta 2, until you set the option "Play repeats" in the D.C. properties. Then it is a "D.C. al Coda con rep." and "To Coda" is reached and the jump is performed.
In reply to The standard behavior after… by HildeK
I tried this and it works perfectly. I could have sworn I had tried checking that Play Repeats box without success but apparently I had something else set incorrectly because when I did it this time it worked.
many thanks.
PS so now the playback structure in MuseScore is as I want it, but is this also the standard way to interpret the printed piece? That is, would it be obvious for someone who knows how to read music notation that the measure with Volta #1 (and the "To Coda" notation) should be played after repeating from the start of the piece following the D. C. al coda notation? Because, if not, I would just use the other commenter's suggestion to just place the "To Coda" one measure back and duplicate the volta #1 measure at the start of the coda. Much oblidged for your thoughts and thanks again.
In reply to I tried this and it works… by petemac1
I have only explained to you why your variant did not work and what you can do about it.
But I think SteveBlower's suggestion is much clearer for a musician to read. That way, no queries would be necessary and it doesn't take up much space either.
However, in both cases (s)he must also see the addition "con rep." at "D.C. al Coda".
I can't say what is usual or not, I'm too inexperienced for that.
In reply to I have only explained to you… by HildeK
Ok, thanks for your comments.