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Is there a way to have voices actually sing lyrics (the words, not oohs and ahs) in the playback?
Is there a way to have voices actually sing lyrics (the words, not oohs and ahs) in the playback?
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Sure: give the notes to a singer or choir
;-)
In reply to Sure: give the notes to a… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hah hah.They cost a little more.
Not at this time. Try again in 5 or 10 years.
In reply to Not at this time. Try again… by TheHutch
Thank you. I hope it happens faster than that. We keep hearing AI is progressing so fast. Seems like something that would be awesome. Am composing and orchestrating an opera and sure would like to be able to demo it with something more than the oohs and ahs.
In reply to Thank you. I hope it happens… by bishthefish
"We keep hearing AI is progressing so fast." *LMAO*
We keep hearing lies about AI. All the hype about AI is, at this time, only hype. Many of the "advancements" attributed to AI have no AI involvement at all, at all. Certainly in the music world, AI has made nothing more than minuscule advancements. In music, humans have NO competition, at this time, from AI.
The change, when it comes, will be very fast and probably very obvious. But it hasn't happened yet.
In reply to "We keep hearing AI is… by TheHutch
I agree. I keep seeing news articles that boast "written by AI and proofread by a human". Often they are full of grammatical and spelling errors. I was a music major and could barely pass English class. So if I can spot mistakes, you know they are bad.
In reply to "We keep hearing AI is… by TheHutch
They already have the ahs and oohs. Seems they could add the dictionary expressed as all possible syllables. But I don't know what I'm talking about, what it would take, how many resources need to be dedicated, whether there is a financial/entrepreneurial upside. I just know that it can be done. Provide the music and the lyrics in musescore format and not only do the instruments play their parts, the singers sing the lyrics! Then one could demo an opera or a musical theatre piece and maybe find some support for the project.
In reply to They already have the ahs… by bishthefish
"They already have the ahs and oohs. Seems they could add the dictionary expressed as all possible syllables."
AI has nothing to do with creating or using the Aahs, Oohs, Mmms, nor any other syllable. This is what I meant when I said that the hype is only hype, and has no substance.
In reply to "They already have the ahs… by TheHutch
Yeah. I probably do not have adequate technical knowledge nor the appropriate lexicon to discuss the possibilities. But I hope I described functionally what one might have some fun with, and perhaps even use practically to elicit support for a project.
In reply to "We keep hearing AI is… by TheHutch
Speaking as a hobbyist developer, I can attest to this reply. AI is all over everything now. And, in fact, I use AI in my workflow for some things, including writing posts on here, believe it or not! Of course, I am the final proofreader of my text, and I notice mistakes when they happen. I paid attention in English class!
My advice is... Treat AI like you would read a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not 100% accurate, and since volunteers write them, it is about as accurate as those submitting the articles. Therefore, you hear the axiom, "
Wikipedia should not be considered a primary or credible source for academic purposes." There's a reason they have the axiom!
The big thing right now with music and AI that I see is copyright issues. Therefore, I don't use it for that use case personally.
By the same token, I am also fascinated by AI and its strides to improve workflows. There's something like DevOps for operation managers and DevOps engineers, as well as generative AI, which is the latest in AI hype. Right now, I'm enrolled in some academic courses in it! AI is simply the new "internet" wave of things. Without the strides of the internet, this useful and helpful MuseScore forum would not be possible!
In reply to Speaking as a developer as a… by smittyVanilli
I believe it.
In reply to Speaking as a developer as a… by smittyVanilli
Which of you set up this paragraph?
My advice is... Treat AI like you would read a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not 100% accurate, and since volunteers write them, it is about as accurate as those submitting the articles. Therefore, you hear the axiom, "
Wikipedia should not be considered a primary or credible source for academic purposes." There's a reason they have the axiom!
I was momentarily thrown off by the quotation marks.
AI may have a place. We all are captivated by something new. Until we find out how useless or dangerous it is.
Proper English skills are important. But if AI does my writing for me, why should I bother. Where is my personality in the writing? We know it will be misused.
In reply to Which of you set up this… by bobjp
Not me. I'm the guy composing an opera wishing I could hear the words when I play back the orchestration, instead of ahs and oohs .
In reply to Not me. I'm the guy… by bishthefish
@ bishthefish. I know. I was wondering if Smitty misplaced the quotation marks or it his AI did.
In reply to @ bishthefish. I know. I was… by bobjp
My apologies for the delayed reply! This week has been busy for me!
Anyway, I was the one who put those quotes around the text myself. Any sayings, I usually extend quotes around them. That's just the way I write. That part is not the AI!
In fact, one of the software I use is ProWritingAid, which is a writing aid for a good portion of what I write. I used it just like anyone uses the Libre Writer or Microsoft Word for spell checking and grammar. However, it is not 100% accurate regarding the contextualizations of text. If my understanding is correct, however, the app uses AI underneath.
Just like we score writers use tools like MuseScore for score writing, there are tools for general writing as well! Like ProWritingAid, MuseScore does not get everything correct, either. Sometimes you have to get into the mixer for adjustments, and so on. One has to learn and work with it to understand the nuances of what it does and what it can do for your scores.
The score writing tool is only as good as the one writing the score!
In reply to My apologies for the delayed… by smittyVanilli
I was wondering why the paragraph looked like it did. There is some text. Then there is a quotation mark. The rest of the line is blank. Then there is text on the next line.
I have never been able to spell for beans, as they say. I was once told by a teacher to buy a dictionary and sleep with it. Didn't do any good. So a good spell checker is what I need mostly. Sometimes I agree with the grammar checker. Sometimes I don't.
I'm not sure I understand your comments about MuseScore. MuseScore doesn't make you a better composer. But it does enable you to get an idea of what your music sounds like. Mere mortals need that. Not like Mendelssohn, who would sit under a tree with a blank piece of paper. Then scribble down some staff lines, and notes for a symphony. And hand this to his staff to print out.
The mixer is just another tool in MuseScore. But once MuseScore starts suggesting what I should write next, is the day I stop using it. I know there are many who want that. But then it isn't me writing any more. Composing is too personal to me.
In reply to I was wondering why the… by bobjp
Amen!
In reply to Which of you set up this… by bobjp
I understand what you mean, Bob! There are different thoughts in both schools. Does AI improve skills or hinder them?
AI's impact on our lives is varied, and we must approach its use cautiously. While AI can be useful, as you pointed out, there are also valid concerns about accuracy, accountability, and the potential for misuse.
You're right that proper English skills are crucial and that relying solely on AI-generated content may not only lack personality but also compromise clarity and effectiveness. As with any tool, it's up to us to use these tools responsibly.
I take a balanced approach, leveraging AI as a helpful assistant while maintaining my own critical thinking and writing skills. If we use AI judiciously and combine it with our own creativity and critical thinking, I believe we can create something more effective than either approach alone!
In reply to I understand what you mean!… by smittyVanilli
In some cases, tools are over-rated. And constantly misused. I need to pass this Lit. course so I'm going to have AI write it and make it look like I did. Have I learned anything? To me a big part of learning how to write a coherent sentence is by reading them. Well written books and stories. realizing that we are not all meant to be great writers. But we do need to get our point across.
As far as AI helping to write music? Music creation involves the complete heart and soul of the person creating it. AI has neither. It can put a string of notes together. To what end? If I write a piece, I get emotional satisfaction from it. A listener might enjoy it also. But I write as a hobby. And as video background. But why does AI write music? Answer, there is no reason from its standpoint. Someone pushed a start button.
And then there are the new AI driven robots. Developers are spending millions trying to convince us we need them.
But back to tools. Yes we need to learn how to use them. But just as valuable is how to do what must be done when those tools aren't around. I once had a dual well cassette (remember those) player. I used it so much that one day the latch that holds the door shut broke. The player was unusable. I couldn't afford a new one. I took it apart and found a small plastic latch was broken. I made a new one out of a paperclip and that player worked again for many years. The point is that there are those of us who can fix many things with duct tape and a coat hanger. AI can't teach you that. I learned how to think outside the box from my dad. He learned it the hard way.
From long ago... :-)
Question:
https://musescore.org/en/node/18638#comment-79845
Answer:
https://musescore.org/en/node/18638#comment-79851
You might find Cantamus (www.cantamus.app) useful — it doesn’t work directly inside any notation software, but it reads musicxml files generated by Musescore (or Dorico, Sibelius, Finale, etc.), and performs the vocal lines with lyrics. You can download the resultant audio as a .wav file and combine it with any orchestration in your preferred DAW.
IIRC there's a VTS available for this
In reply to IIRC there's a VTS available… by Jojo-Schmitz
What is a VTS?
In reply to What is a VTS? by bishthefish
A Typo. I meant VST
In reply to A Typo. I meant VST by Jojo-Schmitz
Which one?
Yesterday evening, a post on the Dorico forum mentioned another vocal synthesizer VST that will be released in February, called Cantai (https://cantai.app). The marketing materials say it's got out-of-the-box compatibility with Musescore, Sibelius, and Dorico. Interesting stuff...!
In reply to Yesterday evening, a post on… by DetroitTenor
Sounds interesting!
In reply to Sounds interesting! by bishthefish
I agree!
However, being as there is a solo developer who runs the project, I am wondering about the longevity of this project. I have seen projects fail because of a loss in time. One such example is a software called Onivim, a modal text editor. I bought their version 2, which was the same thing, a lifetime license. Because of timing constraints, the project had to be abandoned.
However, they left their project on GitHub. And who knows? Somebody could pick up where the developers left off and take it somewhere!
Onvim 1
https://github.com/onivim/oni
Onivim 2
https://github.com/onivim/oni2