Nuances lost in repeat
Bonjour
When I declare nuances on a score, like pedal, if i used a repeat barre the pedal is lost at the second passage.
Why?
Best regards
Daniel
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Can you post a score you are having problems with so we can see what you are talking asbout?
In reply to Can you post a score you are by Marc Sabatella
Bonjour
Bonjour
So I post, the "score for Elise" the first repeat is ok in measure 8, but when it's arrive at the second repeat at measure 23 at the second passage the pedal is lost.
Best regards
In reply to Bonjour Bonjour So I post, by JODARDDANIEL
Bonjour
To include correctly the nuances, I have exported this score in a midi file, and after re-imported the midi file to make a new score, and after I have included the nuance in this new score.
Daniel
See attached file for the new score.
In reply to Bonjour Bonjour So I post, by JODARDDANIEL
I don't understand - I don't see any pedal markings in measure 24, and measure 23 is only played the first time? The pedal markings *before* measure 23 play both times for me, and the pedal marking in measure 23 plays the only time that measure is played for me.
In reply to I don't understand - I don't by Marc Sabatella
Bonjour
So playing with repeat bar line, do
play measure 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 repeat bar line, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 jump to 9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,23 repeat bar line, (pedal is ok) 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,jump to 24
the last section 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21(pedal is lost at the second passage).
I don't know why?
Best regards
Daniel
In reply to I don't understand - I don't by Marc Sabatella
It looks like this is something fixed since 2.0. It plays correctly for me in the nightly build I downloaded a couple of days ago, but in released 2.0 I get the same symptom the OP complains of: the pedal markings are not honored during the repeat of mm. 10-22.
In reply to It looks like this is by ghicks
I see now, it's this bug, fixed shortly after 2.0 was released:
#42356: Pedal playback remains on if pedal line ends at closing repeat bar
BTW, notice the description of the problem - it only happens if the repeat goes right up to the repeat bar. That is actually the case here, even though it does not appear to be. The pedal lines seem to have been entered incorrectly - they extend all the way to the end of the bar even though though they are written to end mid-measure. They were probably shortened using the mosue rather than using Shift+Left as they should have been.
In reply to I see now, it's this bug, by Marc Sabatella
Bonjour
I haven't understood anything, what is really the problem, have I do a mistake somewhere with the pedal lines?
Best regards
Daniel
In reply to Bonjour I haven't understood by JODARDDANIEL
You do indeed have a mistake in the pedal lines. Double click one to edit it and you will see the the dotted line showing the pedla actually extends all the way to the end of the measure. I am guessing you added the pedal line, it defaulted to extending to the end of the measure, and you tried shortening it by dragging it with the mosue. But that's not the correct way to edit lines. This only changes their length visually, but does not change their *actual* length - the end note for the line. This applies to all lines - slurs, pedal, hairpins, voltas, etc. To shorten or lengthen a line you are supposed to use Shift+Left or Shift+Right. Dragging is only for making small adjustments, not for changing the actual end note for the line.
In reply to You do indeed have a mistake by Marc Sabatella
Good evening,
I have used Shift arrow Left, or shift +arrow right to move de point of the dot line, I haven't used the mouse to drag this point because we can't move it with the mouse, we can move little square which appear but I haven’t touch it with mouse.
1) I have begun again all this part, using shift + left and it's not work.
2) After I have tested without adjust the pedal line, I have only drag the pedal line to attach them at each measure.
It's not work too at the second passage.
Best regards
In reply to You do indeed have a mistake by Marc Sabatella
But just to be clear, it's not wrong to have a pedal mark that persists to the end of the measure if that's the effect you actually want. However, such a pedal mark will expose bug #42356 in version 2.0 and cause the bad playback during the repeat. This bug is fixed in the nightly builds and in the upcoming 2.0.1 release. Is that right?
I was concerned with the use of the pedal marking under the treble staff in mm. 13-14. This seems wrong to me; the sustain pedal applies to the whole instrument and the standard place to mark it is beneath the lower staff. I don't think I've ever seen a pedal mark between the staves in a printed score and I'm actually a little surprised that MuseScore supports this.
In reply to But just to be clear, it's by ghicks
Indeed, nothing wrong with a pedal mark extending to the end of a measure. But if that is the intent, then the marking should not have been shortened. As it is, MuseScore will play this back to the end of the measure, but a human performer read the music would release the pedla half way through the measure, because that is what the notation says.
And yes, if the pedal extends to the end of the measure - regardless of whether it is also errnoeously shortened by dragging - then the bug is triggered in 2.0, and this bug is fixed in the nightly builds that will become 2.0.1
I noticed the pedal marking on the treble staff as well, this indeed indeed not really correct. Ocassionally, though, it's the only way to get the desired effect - see #15513: Pedal markings under grand staff can only be attached to notes in staff attached to
In reply to Indeed, nothing wrong with a by Marc Sabatella
Good Evening
I have downloaded the score "fur Elise", that score has the same problem than mine on your site.
Pedal is lost too after the repeat bar line.
See attached file.
I have another question see the picture "how separate note.jpg"
Best regards
In reply to Good Evening I have by JODARDDANIEL
Yes, the repeats in that score are correct - they extend to the end of the measure but visually and in reality - and thus they trigger the same bug that was already fixed. So this won't be a problem in 2.0.1.
As for how to break beams, see the Beam Properties palette to break / join beams individually, also Time Signature Properties to set the defaults.
In reply to Good Evening I have by JODARDDANIEL
To break the beam:
Select the fifth note (A) in the group, then double click on 'Beam start' in the Beam Properties Palette.
See:
https://musescore.org/en/node/36046
Regards.
In reply to To break the beam: Select the by Jm6stringer
Thanks a lot.
It's a power soft.
Daniel