Cross-stave arpeggio

• Apr 5, 2009 - 20:45

If there is a way to get cross-stave arpeggio (which is not uncommon in piano scores, for example), I would apprciate being told how. If not, I would make that a feature request.


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In reply to by MDMilford

@MDMilford: When I listened to it the first time, my guess was it had something to do with having so many arpeggios right after each other. Another thing I noticed (if I remember correctly) changing the tempo changed which arpeggios played back correctly and which sounded like block chords.

In reply to by MDMilford

I went to your original post, downloaded the score and did a little experiments on it, and I can confirmed that your suspicion was correct: Some of the chords are indeed not arpaggiated. The audio impression is further confirmed by examining the midi file's note events. And the behavior is the same whatever tempo you are using, though the effects are more easily discernable at some tempo than others.

This actually open a whole can of worms regarding midi output (and playing of scores, since I assume the same mechanism is used to generate the midi events to feed the midi file maker and fluidsynth). I will switch over to continue the discussion in MDMilford's original thread on arpeggios.

Hi, I've got the same problem since long time.
My question is: has this problem been solved since 2009?
I need that cross-stave arpeggio ( crossing two staves) in my piano and harp scores quite often.
Thank you for helping me - Wolfgang

In reply to by chen lung

Thanks for your comments.
Nevertheless I think my problem remains unsolved.

The arpeggio I would like to hear should be one continuing arpeggio, not two simultanously.
That sounds very different.
If two hands arpeggiate at the same time it's sometimes too massive.

As far as I understand, MuseScore has no solution to it.
Maybe something slipped my attention...

In reply to by amuser

You are correct, it's subtly different. Do keep in mind, the primary purpose of MuseScore is notation, not playback. and the method I describe achieves this primary purpose. In MuseScore 2.0, you may also be able to get results like you want using the built in piano roll editor, but it will take some tweaking. And if for some reason you really more control over the playback than you can get that way, you can always export to MIDI and do that in a program better suited to that sort of fine-grained contro over playbackl.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I totally agree with your explanations.
I have done that task several times in Logic X.
But it's no fun ;-(

A Notation program is meant to control the different kinds of playing.
For instance it differentiates staccato from Legato.
Now isn't it possible to differentiate two kinds of arpeggiato?

I always export my notation is MIDI into Logic.
That's a great deal on one hand side, on the other side there are these bugs, as I see it.
May be there is a way out for the engineers ( hopefully).
I appreciate working with MuseScore, although I have Finale 2014 too, not yet studied.

In reply to by amuser

Just to concur with Marc, see the FAQ .

I would encourage users with queries pertaining to playback to bare in mind what was/is likely to have been the mindset of the MuseScore developers: You have an application thats intention is to produce sheet music to be printed and played by real players (if it failed in this sole aspect, users may have disregarded the software without even considering anything else), but it doesn't have playback - users are most likely to request this, so it is implemented as a 'better than nothing' solution (to check for mistakes, or whatever).

Of course, it would be nice to have improved playback, but visuals must have priority.

If the aforementioned issue (#23100: Snap To for glissando) is implemented, it would address your request in full - visually and aurally.

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