Mid-score instrument changes - possible with v2.x ?
This is one feature which is quite important for when I am transcribing scores for export to MusicXml.
To be clear, I need to start with a single staff and then switch to a grand staff and vice-versa.
This is not to be confused with hiding unused measures, however.
I have seen that finale (oops, hope I didn't annoy anyone with that) says it can do this with « Adding mid-score instrument changes »
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Will the same ability be available in v2 ?
Will it be supported in the MusicXML output ?
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a mid-staff instrument change would not change the number of staves, just the sound.
a mid-score instrument change, happening at a line break, could changed the number of staves, and would be achieved with 'hide empty staves'
You could also 'fake' a mid-staff instrument change by using 'hide empty staves' and horizontal frames (which you can then resize to have 0 width)
In reply to a mid-staff instrument change by Jojo-Schmitz
You are right, it is a mid-score instrument change - I did not make any mention of mid-staff changes.
As I had said previously, using the "hide empty staves" method would not achieve what is needed - unless lengthy work has been undertaken to correctly export this to MusicXML.
In the current version (v1.3), MusicXML export for this feature - hiding empty staves - is not implemented.
Indeed, the link I gave in my question relates specifically to mid-score instrument changes.
So, now that we are on the same wavelength - will the next version be able to do mid-score instrument changes rather than faking them as you suggest ?
In reply to mid-score not mid-staff by Simon Giddings
not without 'hide empty staves' and I'm not aware of any changed to this with regards to XML export.
In reply to mid-score not mid-staff by Simon Giddings
MuseScore 2.0 Beta/Nightly *does* do mid-score instrument changes, but it doesn't define this term the same way you do. As far as MuseScore is concerned, it's just a playback thing, and doesn't affect the number of staves or any other visual properties of the instrument. I'm not sure if/how MusicXML would support that if it were to be implemented, but the more direct way would seem to be to hide the measures themselves on the staff you don't to see, via Measure Properties. That seems more likely to be something supported in MusicXMlL although I haven't tried or looked up whether MusicXML supports it at all.
In reply to MuseScore 2.0 Beta/Nightly by Marc Sabatella
I just did a little research in the forum, cause I encountered a similar problem. I am writing a symphonic score and I need to change instruments basically every of the four movements. The problem ist, that when I use "hide empty staffs" that he hides all empty staffs not just only at the end of every movement with the instrument changes but he also hides empty staffs of needed instruments within the score. Now I wonder, if there is a way to make a distinction between instruments, used in the movement and instruments that are not used in the current movement or if such a feature would be provided in a coming update of musescore.
In reply to I just did a little research by Patrick Jansen
One of the options in Staff Properties (accessed by secondary-clicking on an instrument name or on an empty part of a staff) is "Never hide"—i.e., not even if "Hide empty staves" is turned on and the staff is empty. Does that help?
In reply to One of the options in Staff by Isaac Weiss
In that case, the Instrument will not hide in the first movement, but also in the later movements, where I don't need it anymore.
In reply to In that case, the Instrument by Patrick Jansen
Okay, I understood you to be saying that there were certain instruments that did not change that you wanted to appear consistently throughout all the movements. One workaround is to insert an invisible/inaudible note in voice 2 as a placeholder to keep a staff from disappearing.
In reply to Okay, I understood you to be by Isaac Weiss
Thanks, that worked out just fine :)
In reply to In that case, the Instrument by Patrick Jansen
You could use "Never hide" on the *other* staves.
In reply to You could use "Never hide" on by Marc Sabatella
That would certainly work for the consistant instruments, and the others I gotta adjust by this silent invisible note trick. Thanks a lot :)
In reply to I just did a little research by Patrick Jansen
You could also simply consider making each movement a separate score file.