Using different dynamics on repeat
On a repeat, I want to have it played soft [p] the first time and loud [f] the second time. I can't find anything detailing how this is to be done. Right now, I cobble together 2 separate dynamic marks separated by a hyphen to approximate what I want. This will not work on playback, but it's all I can think of!
Any better way?
Thanks as always.
Scott
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This is correct, there is no playback support for different dynamics on different repeats. Two dynamics separated by hyphen is one correct way of notating this, so don't think of it as "cobbling together" - it's a perfectly fine solution for the notation, and notation is the primary purpose of MuseScore. If you would also like to hear it play back that way, you could create a second copy of the second for playback only in which you simply write out the repeated section twice.
In reply to This is correct, there is no by Marc Sabatella
Thanks as always, Marc, for the support. Have there been any thoughts as to how it might be done to create something like a p-f , 1st time, second time, setting? This is a very common marking in music of all types.
Regards,
Scott
In reply to Thanks as always, Marc, for by scottw46
See the Handbook under "Custom palette" for information on adding your own custom markings to the palettes. Again, it won't play back that way, but playback is never the primary purpose of MuseScore.
In reply to See the Handbook under by Marc Sabatella
Agree, playback is just a bonus. Cobbling together 2 different dynamic markings, separated by a hyphen is inelegant and a bit time consuming, but I hope this is my worst problem in life!
Thanks for all you do.
Scott
In reply to Agree, playback is just a by scottw46
Just to be clear, they don't have to be "separate" dynamic markings. Create a single dynamic, then edit it however you want.
In reply to Just to be clear, they don't by Isaac Weiss
Yes, like by typing Ctrl+Shift+P, then the dash, then Ctrl+Shift+F. Do that once, add it to your custom palette, and then it is always available as easily as any other dynamic.
In reply to Yes, like by typing by Marc Sabatella
Terrific!
In reply to Yes, like by typing by Marc Sabatella
I am trying to follow the notation advice in this thread (except for me it is p-f), but the additional dynamic text (i.e., -f) seems to take on slightly different formatting than the initial dynamic text (and tail of the forte is lopped off). This alternate formatting makes sense in other settings (e.g., poco f), but not helpful here. It is not leaping out to me how to fix this so all dynamics text are same size/formatting. Thanks for any assistance anyone can offer.
In reply to I am trying to follow this… by Chris_Allen
As an alternative to Ctrl+Shift+P/F (not sure why that wouldn't work though) as mentioned, notice that you can use the tags that are provided when a dynamic mark is added to a hairpin. For example, when you apply a dynamic mark to a hairpin, the result is one "symbol" and both get selected, like:
In the inspector once selected, you'll see a text such as:
![text-1.png]( "text-1.png")
![forte2.png]( "forte2.png")
Or if it were a "forte" mark:
Copy that text and paste it into a regular dynamic mark and it should manifest as the appropriate dynamic format automatically. Hopefully this helps.
In reply to I am trying to follow this… by Chris_Allen
I'm guessing you are using an ordinary "f" (which displays italicized as per the style setting) instead of the special dynamics script "f". To get that, type Ctrl+Shift+F
In reply to I'm guessing you are using… by Marc Sabatella
When a dynamic is added to the score, double clicking on it will "get you inside". Then, down at the bottom left of the screen is a little icon that lets you choose symbols to add to the text. In the example I show, I entered a p for piano followed by a dash (hyphen or minus sign) and then chose the dynamic symbol f for forte.
In reply to When a dynamic is added to… by [DELETED] 1193126
And if you dislike scrolling through the special characters window for that, you can use one of the shortcuts to enter dynamic text characters as mentioned in https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/dynamics#edit-a-dynamic
In reply to And if you dislike scrolling… by jeetee
Thanks. I might try that as I become more proficient.
Right now I am still having to consciously think of almost every little thing. I have added “s” for “slur”, and “command up or down arrow for octave changes” and sometimes the option key and a number goes a chord interval. But beyond that my fingers and head get mixed up. Especially when I try to go a bit too fast.
I am grateful there are visual options I can try to use before I try to remember a host of key strokes.
Dynamics surely don't just "belong" to notes.
I do a lot of music for a choir and often, one verse is sung with different dynamics to another verse.
It would really help if dynamics could also be added to lyrics.
I did hear that there were changes afoot for the handling of lyrics and implementing this would be welcome.
In reply to Dynamics surely don't just by Ewart North
I don't think it really is helpful to think in terms of dynamics as belonging to lyrics. For one thing, it only provides a solution to the repeat problem if your score happens to have lyrics. For another, it only doesn't handle cases where the *same* lyric might be sung at one dynamic one time and a different dynamic the next time. For another thing, there are other markings like articulations that are definitely attached to notes but might *also* need different playback on different repeats.
If there is to be a solution, it really should involve setitng the repeat counts for the elements themselves - whether dynamics, articulations, or even notes - much as is done for voltas.