Muted trombone?
Even in the general soundfont the option for a muted trombone is not even in the lists (and the mixer doesn't provide the option when loaded). A muted trombone is, however, often used in jazz/big band scoring and not uncommonly for orchestral scores.
Does anyone know of a decent soundfont for this? Thanks.
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This option is available in every GM soundfont, but indeed not for trombone, just for trumpet. Maybe you could use that sound instead.
See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/mixer#mid-staff-change
In reply to This option is available in by Jojo-Schmitz
The sound of a muted trombone is quite different. I'm going to have a look around and see what I can find.
In reply to The sound of a muted trombone by Roger v.d Velde
Perhaps you could use the muted trumpet, generate audio octave above, and transpose it down using Audacity?
I don't happen to find the drop-down list there, even for muted trumpet.
In reply to I don't happen to find the by Peet du Toit
Can you be more specific? What are you looking for, and where are you looking? Can you attach your score and give precise steps to reproduce the problem? Do be sure to read the Handbook section referenced above.
In reply to Can you be more specific? by Marc Sabatella
Okay, Marc. I followed the Mid-staff change instructions for Muted trumpet on MuseScore 2.1. Getting to no. 6, in the Staff Text Properties dialog, my only option in the Channel checkbox is 'Normal'. There is no option for pizzicato or mute. Is the version too old or what? Thanks. Peet
In reply to Okay, Marc. I followed the by Peet du Toit
That is the current version. My guess is that while you may have selected a trumpet sound in the mixer, the instrument itself is not set to trumpet. In order to say for sure what is going on, we would need you to attach your score using the "File attachments" link below where you type your reply.
In reply to That is the current version. by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for your prompt responses. Herewith the score then. I want to have the two trumpets muted right from the start throughout the piece. P
In reply to Thanks for your prompt by Peet du Toit
How did you manage to have "Trumpet in B^b (2) (2)" as the Instrument instead of "B♭ Trumpet"? Have you used a custom instruments.xml, or a template to create that score?
Anyway, fixed score attached
In reply to Thanks for your prompt by Peet du Toit
Looks like maybe the score was imported from some other source, that's why the trumepot doesn't have all the right MuseScore defaults? Although normalkly this does work better. If you still have the file you imported this from (MusicXML? MIDI?) it would also be helpful if you attached that so we could understand better how this happened.
Anyhow, Jojo's version above should fix this. If it happens again with another score, just go to Staff Properties and change the instrument to trumpet, so it can get all the right settings.
In reply to Looks like maybe the score by Marc Sabatella
Indeed, Score Properties tells me that this was an XML Import...
In reply to Indeed, Score Properties by Jojo-Schmitz
Dear Marc and Jojo, thanks for all your efforts. I've learnt in the process. Sorry, was away for a while and could not respond. Yes, I've imported it from Sibelius. Hence the swop in Trumpet in Bb vs. Bb Trumpet etc.
I am happy with the result and will publish it today. All the best to you. Peet
In reply to Dear Marc and Jojo, thanks by Peet du Toit
Seems we should be a better Job at mapping instruments to those we really provide on XML import
In reply to Seems we should be a better by Jojo-Schmitz
Often we do, but there are lots of different ways the input can be provided, and some work better than others. Which is why it would be useful to see the original MusicXML file here/
In reply to Often we do, but there are by Marc Sabatella
Maybe let the user choose the instruments according to the list? Like Sibelius?
In reply to Maybe let the user choose the by KeldeoJustified
In most cases we already get it right, and for the few we don't you can already change it. So So I'm not sure it makes sense overcomplicate the interface in the general case.
Hey guys, I have just discovered a trick to create a mute trombone sounds!!!!!! In the trombone part switch the trombone for a trumpet. Even with the trumpet, the part will still be in F-clef, in a bass tone. Then, add a mute, and the sound will be bass, and can replace a mute trombone soundfont!!!!!!! Try it!!!!!!!
In reply to Hey guys, I have just… by David Arturo Jaimes
Brings up the idea to adding a muted channel to the trombones, but just using the muted trumpet sound.
Which brass instruments can or do get muted (at times)?
In reply to Brings up the idea to adding… by Jojo-Schmitz
"At times" is pretty broad suppose could encompass most of them. Trombones and horns, though, are the most obvious candidates to me. For horns, I'm thinking of the "fist in the bell" method primarily.
In reply to "At times" is pretty broad… by Marc Sabatella
Would a muted trumpet sound work for those, as the closest available approximation?
See https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/5859
In reply to Would a muted trumpet sound… by Jojo-Schmitz
It's better than not having the option, sure, so thanks for that! Not sure why no one ever thought of this before...
In reply to Would a muted trumpet sound… by Jojo-Schmitz
PR got merged