System brackets/braces not staying where placed
I guess a recent software release is setting system brace/bracket positions automatically. Having a default setting is fine, but I want to group staves with brackets as I choose. When I do, if I hide or expose a staff or staves while editing the brackets all revert to what I assume was their default positions (some of which make no sense to me). I want them to stay where I choose to put them. Is there a way to stop this behaviour?
Thanks.
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indeed, 3.6 does this
You can avoid that by setting the ordering to Custom in the Instruments dialog, I believe
In reply to indeed, 3.6 does this You… by Jojo-Schmitz
That appears to work. I thought I had done that. I had it at "Rock Band (customized)", which wasn't doing it. Selecting "Custom" seems to resolve it. Thanks for your help!
Indeed, since 3.6 MuseScore has a new feature, score ordering. Based on a selected, predefined, score order, instruments are place in the correct order and also brackets are create as is "normal' for that particular order.
The order
Rock Bandwill group the vocal in one group (with a bracket) and the guitars in other group (also group by a bracket). Other instruments are not grouped.If you select a score order, in this case
Rock Bandand start moving instruments around (which is fine), the software knows the current instrument order doesn't match the selected order and will report this as a customized order, henceRock Band (Customized)But it still is aRock Bandso brackets are still generated as it should be for aRock Band.By selecting the order
Custom(as @Jojo-Schmitz already pointed) you effectively switches off the ordering and bracked generations (and in fact have the same behavior as it was in earlier versions of MuseScore).In reply to Indeed, since 3.6 MuseScore… by njvdberg
Ok, well that's where I started from and I couldn't get it to work. Rock Band is not grouping the guitars, which is actually part of what I was trying to achieve. I also added a single staff organ part. It insists on linking that to the adjacent lead guitar staff with a brace and bar lines. The attached file, set to Custom, is how I want it to appear. Changing it to Rock Band messes it up. Also, if I then hide or restore the backing vocal track (& maybe others?) the brackets get reassigned, although I see now that that is probably intentional.
I have my own default style sheet. Could that have an influence?
In reply to Ok, well that's where I… by Steve Vowles
I see, this is a bug. The
guitarssectionRock Bandis grouping instruments of the familyplucked-stringswhich contains instruments like Irish Tenor Banjo and Balalaika, instruments which are not that common in a rock band I assume.Attached you find a modified rock band definition. To use this, open the
Preferences(Edit -> Preferences...), go the toScoretab and put there the path ofrockband.xml. Apply the form and go back toInstrumentsform (Edit -> Instruments). In the Ordering list you now will find a new ordering,Rock Band (Corrected).Choose this ordering and everything is fine. Okay, almost everything. Another bug will create a brace from the Organ to the next staff and also connect the barlines of the Organ and the next staff. This is Organ is defined to have 3 staves and the first two staves should be grouped by a brace. The problem here is the algorithm has some problems to figure out which staves belongs to which instrument. E.g. 2 organ staves, does that mean one Organ with 2 staves (which should be group by a brace) or two Organs with 1 staff each (no grouping).
I will look into this. The work-around now is simply remove the brace and disconnect the barlines.
Having your own style sheet has no effect on the ordering and bracket/brace generation.
In the attached ordering the barlines within the
guitarsgroup are connected. If you don't want this, you can disconnect these barlines manually or adaptrockband.xml. In this addbarLineSpan="false"to theguitarssection (line 9), just as it is for thevocalsin line 5.In reply to I see, this is a bug. The… by njvdberg
Thank you very much for addressing this. Apart from the organ thing that's working pretty well. It gave my brain a bit of a stretch, but I have it now. Much appreciated.