Using voltas - lines not visible
I have an issue with getting my volta to function properly.
The numbers (1, 2) show up but I can't see the line. I've tried both dragging/dropping the volta symbol as well as selecting the last two bars and clicking on the volta symbol. Same result. Checked the Inspector and the color selected for the line is black. When I click on the numbers it shows that something is selected but I can't see it. Is this a bug?
I'm on version 3.6.2 on a Mac M1 running Big Sur.
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I don't understand what is going on there but if you use the inspector to change the line type to dotted (or anything other than continuous) the line appears and remains visible if you change it back to continuous.
Did this score originate as a .xml import from another application? If so, it may help someone more knowledgeable than me about these things to diagnose the cause of the problem if you attach the .xml file and provide details of the origin.
In reply to I don't understand what is… by SteveBlower
I tried changing to dotted and back, doesn't work for me?
But Format > Style > Volta > Line style is empty, resetting that to default fixed this issue
I wonder whether #317163: Dashed volta lines come back as continuous after the score is saved. is related?
In reply to I tried trat changing to… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojos tip worked!
It stayed when saved and reopened.
Thanks for the help guys!
In reply to I don't understand what is… by SteveBlower
Steve: It worked to change the line in the Inspector to dotted (for example) and then change it back, but when I saved and reopened it was gone again.
The score was created by me in Musescore.
In reply to It worked to change the line… by kristianniema
Remains the question how that style setting got screwed up. Read in an outdated style file (.mss)?
In reply to Remains the question how… by Jojo-Schmitz
Nope, the score was created fresh by me today.
In reply to Nope, the score was created… by kristianniema
Still remains the question how that setting got screwed up
In reply to Still remains the question… by Jojo-Schmitz
No idea actually. I'm pretty new at this and have definitely not been in there changing stuff.
Aside from the lines' visibility issue, it looks like your first volta should cover 2 measures rather than 1.
See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/voltas#change-volta-measures
In reply to Aside from the lines'… by Jm6stringer
Yes definitely :)
I think #325459: Line on "Volta" (1., 2. etc) won't show after closing and reopening a saved file/score is probably the most relevant related issue. In that case, the problem came in because of an invalid MSS file that was loaded into the score manually. I imagine the same would happen is a similarly invalid MSS file had been set as the default in Edit / Preferences / Score, or if one created the score from a similarly invalid template.
Does any of this seems like it could be at play? Any custom MSS files or templates involved?
In reply to I think #325459: Line on … by Marc Sabatella
Yes I think you're right, that seems to be the exact same issue.
I have a template that I created and every time I opened that the volta lines were not there. Now that I've gone into Line Style and changed then saved it works every time.
I don't know what an MSS file is, sorry. Noob here.
In reply to Yes I think you're right,… by kristianniema
Can you share that template (before having fixed it)? And tell us when (whith which version of MuseScore) and how you created it?
An mss file is what you'd create via Format Save Style and load via Format > Load Style, but working from a template might cause the same issue indeed
In reply to Can you share that template?… by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok, thanks.
Here's the template.
Like you said earlier, I wonder what causes the Line Style to be empty. It's not like you can choose 'empty' in the drop down menu.
In reply to Ok, thanks. Here's the… by kristianniema
OK, that template indeed has that bogus setting. As per the score properties it had been created on 2021-04-14 and with MuseScore 3.6.2 on a Mac. No indication or traces of it being an import from an older version. No explanation how that bogus setting came into that score.
It has the same bogus settings for pedalLineStyle (with an interesting typo) and ottavaLineStyle:
In reply to OK, that template indeed has… by Jojo-Schmitz
Smells like saving an uninitialized value for those style settings somehow.
In reply to Smells like saving an… by jeetee
Well, those values do seem to get properly initialized (to 1, AKA
Qt::SolidLine), and not saved into a score (if using their default setting, 1). In the case of an unititialized value I'd rather expect some random number, not a 0 (AKAQt::NoPen?)In reply to Ok, thanks. Here's the… by kristianniema
Did that template score start out from another template?
As in, is it a saved changed score from the default empty score; or did you use the new score wizard to create it (and if so, do you remember what you picked there?)?
In reply to Did that template score… by jeetee
I'm pretty sure I started with Score Wizard and chose General > Treble Clef and took it from there. I didnt have any templates when I first started.
This is the first thing I ever did in Musescore but it doesn't have that problem.
In reply to I'm pretty sure I started… by kristianniema
Hmm, OK... A score started from that 'template' doesn't have these bogus settings
In reply to Hmm, OK... A score started… by Jojo-Schmitz
Here's a score I did a week later after I started and it DOES have this problem. The volta line here was me choosing a straight line in the Lines palette and trying to make it look ok.
In reply to Here's a score I did a week… by kristianniema
Well, these ain't voltas but plain text lines and do show the lines. The voltas don't though, but that's due to that bogus setting.
So doesn't seem to help in investigating the reason