Export to tux guitar

• Jun 30, 2013 - 22:08

Hello I am trying to work with another composer who composes in tux guitar. I know you can load midis in tux guitar but I was wondering what the best file type to export from musescore to import into tux guitar is. Also if there is a plugin for different exports in musescore I would be interested, just to have more options. Thank you.

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• Jul 1, 2013 - 14:37

Thats what I was planning on trying but I read that it cant import .xml so I haven't tried. I will try that later and let you know. Also, I was curious if there were any tux guitar plugins for more import options. That would make it a lot easier.

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• Jul 3, 2013 - 17:34

Tux guitar, mainly a tablature editor and player. Musescore, mainly a notation editor and player.

The way I see it:
You (Musescore) ↔ Collaborator (Tux Guitar)

You might try:

1. From Musescore to Tux (need to use TablEdit for Tux to import):
Musescore (you) → MusicXML → TablEdit → Tux Guitar (collaborator)

From Tux to Musescore:
Tux Guitar (collaborator) → MusicXML → Musescore (you)

2. Another way (collaborator can use 'free version' PDFtoMusic Pro software):

Musescore (you) → .pdf (collaborator should already have a reader) → PDFtoMusic Pro → your collaboraror can 'play back' (listen to) the score with PDFto Music Pro, while viewing your .pdf notation.
Then, your collaborator can edit his own Tux Guitar file accordingly and send it back to you via MusicXML.

Of course, the easiest way would be for your collaborator to use Musescore. Perhaps when version 2 arrives, as it will have Tabs as a new feature.

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• Oct 31, 2023 - 20:27

Tried MuseScore > MusicXML > TablEdit > TEF > Tux Guitar
The .tef was created, but got an error when attempting to import into Tux Guitar.

Tried MuseScore > Midi > Tux Guitar.
Worked great for Part 1. But the second part was missing.

It's a simple 16-bar tune! Eight bars in part 1, repeat. Then eight bars in part II. Repeat again.
As trad formats go, it doesn't get any more standard than that.

The only wrinkle is part 1 is written as 4 bars, with a different ending for the last bar.
The midi file plays perfectly, so the error is in the TuxGuitar import.

Bottom line: I am still looking for ANY way to create a fiddle/mando tab staff for a simple
trad tune. (Will happily entertain suggestions about other software to use...)

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• Oct 31, 2023 - 20:39

Have spent about a day trying to get things done with MuseScore.
Took some work and time spent figuring things out, but got the score fixed up rather nicely.

But tablature creation in Mu4 failed utterly.
So I retreated to Mu3. That failed, too.
Tried Tux Guitar but neither MusicXMl to tef (via TablEdit) or Midi import worked.

I got tired of downloading stuff, figuring out how to use them, and finding out things don't work.
Am now downloading the 8-day free trial version of Guitar Pro.
If it works as advertised, I'll be happy to send them $70 so I can get on with my life.

eric out.

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• Nov 1, 2023 - 01:09

You wrote:
Bottom line: I am still looking for ANY way to create a fiddle/mando tab staff for a simple
trad tune.
Okay, here's a simple traditional tune which you can open in MuseScore 4::
The Irish Washerwoman.mscz

Beginning picture:
Begin.png

You wrote:
But tablature creation in Mu4 failed utterly.
You need to read:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/working-instruments#add-linked-staff

And so, it's explained in 4 steps...
1. If there are no staves visible under the instrument label, click the triangular "show more" icon next to the label
2. Click the cog icon next to the staff label (E.g. "Treble clef")
3. Click Create a linked staff
4. Click the cog icon of the newly added staff, and adjust "Staff type", if required.

Here's a step-by-step (use my attached mscz file):
TAB.png
You will find the terms "simple", "common" and "full" in the tablature type names:
Simple: Displays just fretmarks.
Common: Displays fretmarks, rests, stems and beams.
Full: Displays fretmarks; rests, stems and beams, half-note stems.

Result:
Result.png
This result shows "common" TAB.

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• Nov 1, 2023 - 14:27

Many thanks for the comprehensive reply.
It's looking like, somehow, my version is different in important ways.

For example, under plucked instruments, I don't see a mandolin option.
So I use violin. (True, there are no frets, but the finger positions are the same,
Apparently violins have a somewhat different notation system, but I never
knew that until I read it here!)

(I play a 4-string concert ukulele strung with Aquilla GDAE strings. I call it
a Manduku. :__)

And again, when I click that gear icon, Staff Type is disabled, as displayed
in the graphic I attached to a reply I sent to Jo Jo. (I've attached it here, as
well. How did you get graphics in your post, anyway?)

One further difference: Your version has corrected the syntax to say
"Staff Type", while mine says "Stave Type".

Clearly, the version I downloaded is down-rev. But it says it is up to date.

Attachment Size
MuseScore 4 Tablature staff.jpg 54.31 KB

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• Nov 1, 2023 - 16:44

"For example, under plucked instruments, I don't see a mandolin option.
So I use violin"

Don't use the violin - that's your mistake. This instrument is not designed to be associated with tablature. This is why the stave type is disabled (your picture)
Use the mandolin: type mandolin or mando in the search box - image below. And you'll be able to associate it with a TAB staff, linked or not.
See this template made for you: mandolin + linked TAB staff: Template.mscz

mando.jpg

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• Nov 4, 2023 - 06:32

That's odd. I saw Common Instruments, and all the variations under it.
When I clicked on Common Instruments, I don't recall seeing a drop down.
Instead, I saw a list of instruments on the right that included many things, but not a mandolin.

If that GUI control is doing two jobs, can I suggest that it reduce to just one?
Once I was focused on inspecting the list on the right, I swear to you that I never
ever even saw an "all instruments" option.

And can I further suggest a "More..." option at the end of Strings - Plucked, for example,
that would lead some to a) Reallze that more options are available. b) click the
silly button to find them. and c) Override the expectation that "All instruments" is simply
going to be concatenation of instruments seen in the default lists available on the left.

Such things come in handy for those who haven't memorized the manual, or who haven't exhaustively analyzed it looking for a feature we hope might be there...

(Honestly, it's great that the manual includes that information. That makes "read this" a valid response to the query, "How do I get a mandolin tab". As I used to say, "Design an interface so intuitive that a manual isn't needed. Then write a manual so complete that support isn't needed. And then man the phones!

Thanks for the info, though.

P.S.
I just checked the interface. Unusual! The selector at the top changes the behavior of all the
options underneath it. Can't say I've seen that before. Maybe it's common these days?
Dunno. It's the first I've seen it..

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• Nov 4, 2023 - 06:55

"When I clicked on Common Instruments, I don't recall seeing a drop down.
Instead, I saw a list of instruments on the right that included many things, but not a mandolin."

Please trust those who want to help you. When they say that the mandolin is an instrument available in MuseScore, believe them! 😉

There are two methods, see GIFs below. Prefer the first method (type the instrument name in the search box) which is quicker.

1.

Video1.gif

OR

2.

Video 2.gif

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• Nov 1, 2023 - 16:51

You wrote:
For example, under plucked instruments, I don't see a mandolin option.
For some strange reason, mandolin is not considered a "Common" instrument. So, either
1. Change from "Common" to "All instruments" under the 'Family' drop-down list, or
2. Use the search box.
Instruments.png

You wrote:
Apparently violins have a somewhat different notation system...
Yes, which is why I used mandolin. It allows for TAB. (Similar tuning to violin, though with four courses of doubled strings.)

You wrote:
And again, when I click that gear icon, Staff Type is disabled, as displayed
in the graphic I attached to a reply I sent to Jo Jo.
Yes, Violins are fretless, so fret positions are not used (nor even taught) as they are for guitar, banjo, mandolin, ukulele, etc.
Pianos and organs are also fretless, so TAB would be meaningless, and also disabled for those instruments, too - and for many others. (That's not to say that instruments like harmonica, mountain dulcimer, recorder do not have their own specialized TAB versions. Some are accessible via plugins.)

You wrote:
Your version has corrected the syntax to say "Staff Type", while mine says "Stave Type".

Simply a difference between English (US) and English (GB).
It can be changed using menu item: Edit > Preferences > General and making a selection in the 'Language' drop-down list.

You wrote:
How did you get graphics in your post, anyway?

See:
https://musescore.org/en/node/289899
and read the part:
"After attaching the file, in the case of an image, you can insert it in the message."

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• Nov 9, 2023 - 19:55

Many thanks for the info. Especially the part about how to insert a picture!
CarnaticStudentConcert-Feb2012.JPG

Interestingly, after adding a picture, I have a visible cursor.
(Before that, it remained invisible. So I'll have to start every post with a picture,
even if I immediately remove it. :__)

One thing I'd like to make clear, though: I suspect this is an area where the interface could
use some improvement. (If I'm the only person ever to have trouble finding an instrument,
then I'm wrong. But if others have similar issues, consider it an alert!)

At any rate, thanks for the help. I now have a wonderful score that sounds good (after
I copied the mandolin part to a violin for playback). and that has a linked tab and score
for mando. (It would be nice to link the violin part, so it's always in sync with the mando,
but that's for a future day!)

Also, I'll have to inspect the style options to see if I can make chord symbols large enough
for me to read. As good as this program is, I bet I can!

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• Nov 10, 2023 - 05:19

You wrote:
I suspect this is an area where the interface could use some improvement. (If I'm the only person ever to have trouble finding an instrument, then I'm wrong. But if others have similar issues, consider it an alert!)

As I (previously) wrote above:
"For some strange reason, mandolin is not considered a 'Common' instrument. So, either
1. Change from 'Common' to 'All instruments' under the 'Family' drop-down list, or
2. Use the search box."
Perhaps mandolin should be included in the "Common" heading.

Also, consider that others who have similar issues might actually consider looking in the handbook.
See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/setting-your-score#choose-instrumen…
As you formerly wrote: Honestly, it's great that the manual includes that information.
Yes, that's what it's there for.

You wrote:
Also, I'll have to inspect the style options to see if I can make chord symbols large enough
for me to read.
1. Use menu item: Format > Style > Text styles > Chord symbol, where you can increase 'Size' (score-wide).
--OR--
2. Click on the chord symbol and change its size in the Properties panel and then, if desired, click the 3-dot ellipsis to save that size as a new default for the whole score (which will update the value in 1. above)

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• Nov 2, 2023 - 18:34

Are you on a Mac? Or on Windows.
I downloaded the Windows version from the website, and it keeps telling me it's up to date.
But your functionality is clearly greater than mine.
Possibilities:
1. Things aren't working right on Windows, compared to Mac
2. The Windows version matches the Mac version, but it wasn't uploaded to the site,
so I (and at least one other, from another thread) are downloading a down-rev version.
3. The Windows version is lagging the Mac version (a lag one way or the other is typical).

Those are my best guesses at the moment. I'll download Mu4 to my Apple Laptop and
see what things look like there...

Drat. My 13-year old Mac AIr tops out at the High Sierra OS. Ventura or Sonora comes
after that, and MuseScore says it needs one of those (I forget which).
So I can't test for myself. Will have to open a new thread and see if someone else
can compare the Windows and Mac versions...

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• Nov 3, 2023 - 02:05

You wrote:
Are you on a Mac? Or on Windows.
I'm on Windows 10, using MuseScore version 4.1.1

You wrote:
But your functionality is clearly greater than mine.
This is where you get MuseScore 4.1.1 -- for Windows or Mac:
https://musescore.org/en/download
It states: "The latest stable version is 4.1.1"
However...
Judging by this picture of yours, you do have MuseScore 4:
MS4.png
In that picture, your staff type is disabled for violin. So is mine (if I use violin). That's why you need to use a fretted stringed instrument.
So please, open this score in your MuseScore 4:
The Irish Washerwoman - manduku.mscz
...and follow the 4 steps shown in the "comprehensive reply" I posted earlier. Don't worry about "Staff Type" vs "Stave Type".
Also, this score uses "Manduku" instead of "Mandolin". Whether 'Staff' vs 'Stave', 'Mandolin' vs 'Manduku' - don't worry. Just follow the 4 steps.
The whole idea here is for you to address your stated issue: But tablature creation in Mu4 failed utterly.
So, follow the step-by-step pictures in my earlier "comprehensive reply" and report back if there is a problem, and clearly explain at which step.

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• Nov 9, 2023 - 16:36

Interesting! I had no idea there were snowless parts of Germany.
You must be way, way south. Out of the mountains.

One of my friends is there, somewhere, with a house in the mountains.
He gets a ton. But where you are, it must be flatter.
How are the roads for pedaling? (ie. getting around town Dutch-style,
as opposed to athletic cycling)

(I know we're way off track here, but I'm enjoying this!)

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