How to make these types of special trill

• Sep 2, 2025 - 14:21

I'm studying M.Ravel and copying his piece, Scarbo.
As you can see, i'm in trouble with making this trill which is screen-shot at right side of its shot.

Trill from 2 notes to another 2 notes, or on the left hand, from 1 note to 2 notes.

I can still make this physically and just not view the notes on the score, but I'd like to know if there is any way to do this.

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In reply to by ten3br1sio

But you should install Musescore 4.6 (i used 4.6, you cannot open with 4.5.2) anyway, you can analyze my score (there is no velocity needed in order to understand what i did) and then you can rebuild it in Musescore 3.

There is nothing "magical" in my solution, its plain handwork and i simply put it together manually. No tricks, i use the normal abilities of Musescore. I am pretty sure that you can rebuild it in Musescore 3 exactly the same way. But you need Musescore 4 in order to open it and to analyze it. After you can deinstall Musescore 4 if you dont like it.

Simply analyze what you see and build it:

1) Starting point is the half note chord with d and e. Build it, the d needs an accidental "natural" in brackets. Assign it.
2) The next "note" is a chord d and f. The d needs an accidental "sharp" in brackets. Assign it.
3) Activate this chord, in head properties choose "small head" and in stem properties choose "No stem". If available, also activate the accidental and choose "small accidental" in the properties.
4) Proceed to Text menu and assign staff text "( )", put as many spaces as needed and choose appropriate size, move the "( )" to the small chord so that it surrounds it. Handwork....
4) Activate the first chord and add the trill symbol.
5) Activate the trill symbol, click the right end (little square) and drag to the right, until it fits.
6) Done.

No tricks, no "special" symbol. Handwork. As far as i know, the "Properties" from Musescore 4 has been called "Inspector" in previous versions. You should find all needed properties there.

In reply to by rhalstenbach

Starting point is the half note chord, yes. I did it.
the next note...how do I place it? Do I need another voice part, or have to place it with grace notes?
Because this part is in 3/4 , so if this is normal quarter note, the amount of rhythm exceeds.
and my trill doesn't play proper note as it showed.

and what do you mean by "activate" the chord?

In reply to by ten3br1sio

>Because this part is in 3/4

Change that measure to 4/4. Then you get room for a quarter note. I dont know how to do in Musescore 3, in Musescore 4 i click the whole measure and can change the properties, i.e. the effective measure from 3/4 to 4/4. A little "+" sign then shows up in the score of that bar. But there is no measure change visible.

Actually, it does not play well, of course not, but you asked for a score, scores are printed. My prints cannot play piano. If you are interested in a PLAY, i cannot help. You showed pictures and asked how to make the score looking like that (".. view the notes on the score, but I'd like to know if there is any way to do this.") It looks like that.

"Activate" chord simply means click the notes and mark them.

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