Community packages for 2.1
Hello everybody
My OS is Linux Mint 18 (based on Ubuntu 16.04 xenial) and I would like to know, about when the community packages for version 2.1 will be ready. I have already installed mscore-stable PPA in my system and I would like to update via this PPA.
So far i use the AppImage, but I have some issues with it (e.g synthesizer appears greyed, and thus I have no sound, also some components do not fit well inside their windows (Mixer), and Preferences are permanently saved but have no effect when loaded after restarting musescore...)
I know i can compile musescore from source, but this is a tedious process which requires qt 5.6 and above (which my system does not have) and anyway I would prefer the pre-compiled deb packages which I can install/uninstall easily ...
Thank you in advance!
Vas
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I maintain the PPA. I will try to make a package for 16.04. I didn't think it would be possible because MuseScore 2.1 needs a module called QtWebKit which is no longer included in the latest Qt versions, but it turns out it's available in Qt 5.5 which Ubuntu 16.04 provides. Unfortunately Ubuntu 16.10 and later provide newer versions of Qt which don't have QtWebKit.
As for the AppImage, it's possible that settings from your previous MuseScore installation (from the PPA) are getting in the way. Have you tried reverting to factory settings via the Help menu, or running:
In reply to I maintain the PPA. I will by shoogle
Thank you for your reply!
No I haven't try MuseScore*.AppImage -F but I have try resetting the Preferences in 2.1 to the defaults and restarting musescore (it didn't work) and finally I erased the musescore configuration inside the ~/.config directory (same problems). These actions also prevented 2.0.3 of functioning correctly, so I erased AppImage, reconfigured 2.0.3 and decided to wait for the updated PPA.
Again thank you for your reply and your effort
Vas
In reply to I maintain the PPA. I will by shoogle
I believe one of the last changes to 2.1 was to allow switching off QtWebKit
Ah, found it: 816b47a
In reply to I maintain the PPA. I will by shoogle
MuseScore*.AppImage -F works great !!!
Thank you.
In reply to As for the AppImage, it's by vasmakk
Glad to hear it!
For anyone else trying this, it just occurred to me that you might need to add a leading "./" to the command to run the AppImage:
It's also worth noting that you would have to do this fix regardless of whether you upgrade to 2.1 via AppImage or PPA. The problem is with leftover preference files, and these are always stored in the same place in
$HOMEregardless of how you installed MuseScore.In reply to Glad to hear it! For anyone by shoogle
Yes, this is the correct way of running an executable in Linux, adding a ./ before the filename.
Meanwhile, I cannot run both v2.0.3 and v2.1 with the same settings, without encountering issues either with the one version or the other. I still have the previous version installed, since I don't trust the new AppImage completely, yet. I was never a fan of AppImages actually and had problems with them in the past with other apps (e.g. LibreOffice later versions). Much better a well maintained PPA.
So, you can try create a PPA for Ubuntu 16.04 for now, with enabled QtWebKit and when you find more time for the later versions of Ubuntu switch off QtWebKit and retry. One thing at a time, no need to make them all at once. I appreciate your effort and hard work, and I hope and wish you have no problems with the compilation.
Thank you
Vas
In reply to I maintain the PPA. I will by shoogle
Is there any hope still that you'll be able to make that package for 16.04?
Would be great (especially since 16.04 as a LTS will be around for longer).
The good news about Linux Mint 18 (and Ubuntu 16.04) is they are LTS releases. So by the time their license expires, within 3 years from now more or less, even Musescore 3.0 might have make it to the official repositories of the next LTS release :) (hopefully!!)
Vas
Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. With Ubuntu and many other Linux distros most applications do not get new versions in official repositories. In order to get new versions, you usually have to upgrade the entire system, or use PPAs or AppImages.
In reply to Unfortunately, it doesn't by RexC
@RexC, I think that by "next LTS release" @vasmakk was referring to Ubuntu 18.04 (and the Mint equivalent). I think (s)he knows that MuseScore 3.0 will never be in the official 16.04 repositories (except maybe as a Snap package!?).
In reply to @RexC, I think that by "next by shoogle
Yes, now that you mention it, I see that he did say the next LTS.
Snaps will be wonderful, assuming it works and the sandbox doesn't get in the way. AppImage will also be wonderful if it works.
In reply to Yes, now that you mention it, by RexC
The AppImage does work so you're in luck there! ;)
In reply to The AppImage does work so by shoogle
Nothing better than a well maintained PPA (after the official repos, of course). I use PPAs for musescore, openshot, linuxsampler e.t.c. AppImage still has some minor issues, mostly cosmetics. Any luck with this @shoogle? Im looking forward to your packages.
Best regards
Vas...
I also would love to know when 2.1 will be available on the mscore PPA! I am on Linux Mint
Thanks!
In reply to I also would love to know by boomernang
Me too! I'm on Linux Mint 17.3 and tried adding the PPA to my system, but nothing seems to happen. I'm not sufficiently competent to to attempt building from source.
But still itching to try 2.1...
In reply to Me too! I'm on Linux Mint by s c standen
In which case you can grab and use the AppImage
In reply to In which case you can grab by jeetee
Except the 64-bit Linux 2.1 AppImage still has issues with not recognising the NumPad keys.
In reply to Except the 64-bit Linux 2.1 by underquark
There is also a major issue with AppImage that must be taken care of. Linux 64bit 2.1 AppImage does not see JACK at all. Everything is configured properly in my system (and musescore preferences)... I use Linux mint 18.1 and I have never had any problems with JACK and 2.0.3 PPA packages. So I will stick with 2.0.3 version for now (because I use JACK a lot) until 2.1 packages become available.
Vas
In reply to There is also a major issue by vasmakk
If you know what you are doing, there is a call for testers for a "snap" package of MuseScore 2.1 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-musescore-v2-1-0/973
In reply to There is also a major issue by vasmakk
If it's not to late: There is a work around for the jack problem, but it's not easy. See my post
https://musescore.org/en/node/268685
Hope it helps
In reply to In which case you can grab by jeetee
Thanks. I've just done that. Seems to work so far, but I still don't quite get the pros and cons of AppImage over a normal install.
In reply to Thanks. I've just done that. by s c standen
Neither do I; but at this point the most obvious pro is: it exists :)
In reply to Thanks. I've just done that. by s c standen
The advantage is that they don't have to create a different package for each different Linux distribution. In practice, that means that you can actually get it.
In reply to The advantage is that they by RexC
So in fact there are no cons and only pros. In which case what's the point of doing a normal install?
In reply to So in fact there are no cons by s c standen
Unsure, because I'm a windows user; but if AppImage behaves like portable applications; then the benefit of doing a PPA and install would be the automatic updates.
In reply to So in fact there are no cons by s c standen
"...what's the point of doing a normal install?"
Automatic updates (eventually). Smaller size. And there are still some teething problems with these universal binaries.