Viola sound artifact on F4
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There's no question but there's bogus sound artifact at the start of the final F. I think that I tried both soundfonts, but I didn't hear a difference (someone else please verify that for me). That's why my viola-intensive piece in C minor has clicks and pops in it. Actually, the opening E has the same glitch.
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Can you describe what you are hearing in more detail? Perhaps upload an audio file somewhere? I don't notice anything unusual about the F or any other note in that passage.
In reply to Can you describe what you… by Marc Sabatella
Here you go, using 'upload mp3' There is a distinct "harsh bowing" on the E and F that distinguishes them from the other notes.
https://musescore.com/user/1831606/scores/5095083/s/873bb9
In reply to Here you go, using 'upload… by [DELETED] 1831606
Hmm, I don't hear that as any sort of sound artifact, just the that the person who played that note when the soudnfont was being sampled probably used a bit more bow speed/pressure on that note - normal human variation, shouldn't cause any clicks or pops. Do you have examples of the latter?
In reply to Hmm, I don't hear that as… by Marc Sabatella
Sure thing: https://musescore.com/user/1831606/scores/5090495 , the F-E trill in m 36 is wrecked by it; it sounds like a little snare drum. 26 and 27 are hit badly, too. "Normal human variation" is not acceptable when recording a soundfont. The result is chaotic accents and artifacts not present in other instruments.
In reply to Sure thing: https:/… by [DELETED] 1831606
I'm not saying it isn't worth trying to improve the consistency, but I'm still not hearing any actual audio clicks or pops, in fact I really don't even notice the effect there, even with headphones and listening carefully. Are you truly hearing actual clicks and pops? Can you upload that audio somewhere?
In reply to I'm not saying it isn't… by Marc Sabatella
"Clicks and pops" was really the other thread (and, yes, I still experience considerably more violent artifacts on scores freshly-dowloaded from the site, irreproduceably). I hear drum-like accents on the notes of the F-E trill, but not the Eb-D trill. I'm sure I'm not making it up. It's on the audible sound of the MS link I posted.
In reply to "Clicks and pops" was really… by [DELETED] 1831606
You mean you hear that even in the playback from musescore.com? I don't, but to be sure I also downloaded it to my system, soled the viola track, and listened carefully through headphones at full speed and slowed down. Again, I certainly hear pronounced bowing, but it very clearly is a bow, not a drum, and certainly not a click or pop. Again, that doesn't mean it isn't worth improving, but if elsewhere you are experiencing actual audio artifacts, not just an unfortunate choice made by the person whose viola playing was sampled, that's definitely a totally unrelated matter as far as I can tell.
In reply to You mean you hear that even… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, I hear it in the playback on MuseScore.com; forget "clicks/pops", that's the other thread, a different problem (not really resolved yet). Having two notes in the sample bowed audibly differently than all others is not satisfactory for a soundfont. It is not an "audio artifact", but it is certainly a "soundfont artifact." The bad choice was made by the person who engineered and quality-assured the soundfont and perhaps directed the sampled musician. It was he or she who is responsible for the artifact, not the musician.
Yes, I didn't mean "drum" literally, but drum-like effect due to the anomalous bowing.
In reply to Yes, I hear it in the… by [DELETED] 1831606
How about this view of eighth-notes F4 G4 Ab4 spaced 2 eighth-notes apart? You can see the problem clearly.