Musescore 3.0 does not save position adjustments on fingering
I'm working on a guitar score, and when I add fingerings, the original position is often right on top of some other element. Moving the item to a position where it is legible is not saved. If I close and reopen the file after saving, it's back to being an illegible blob. Any suggestions?
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Please attach a score demonstrating this (and in which version)
In reply to Please attach a score… by cadiz1
The version is 3.0.2.20666. Tiny score sample is enough to reproduce. Select and use arrow keys to move RH fingering so it's Y positioning is more consistent. Save. Close. Reopen.
In reply to The version is 3.0.2.20666. … by Kenneth Dunlap
Indeed, by using the arrow keys, the positioning is lost on Save. But it is preserved by moving fingerings with mouse. It's a bit unexpected, but if it's a bug, it can still be useful! :)
Not sure what's really planned here.
Then you say you are looking for a more consistent behaviour. Coherent, that is? If, for example, you want these fingerings to all appear horizontally on an imaginary straight line, you can do so.
First enter your RH fingering as usual. Then adjust one of the fingering to the desired position (with mouse or arrow key). Then simply click the "S" button in the Inspector, to the right of the X/Y settings. It's magical: all the fingerings align. Very good new feature.
We can also do it from the beginning: enter a fingering, make the desired adjustment, click "S", and all the subsequent other fingerings, then, will keep the same alignment as the first one.
In reply to Indeed, by using the arrow… by cadiz1
I tried the 'S' trick. When I do that, the fingerings all align to a set X,Y displacement from the root note, not a straight line - better than having a fingering overlapping another note, but not quite what I'm looking for.
Really, the goal is just readability. My teacher has me writing out all the RH fingering for a Weiss Chaconne. It's easier to follow if my eyes aren't bouncing around like a ping-pong ball. But the move-with-mouse trick does the job. Thanks.
In reply to I tried the 'S' trick. When… by Kenneth Dunlap
You have to adjust first the "root note" as desired, then apply with "S". It works.
(and sure you are always talking about RH fingering, not LH fingering?)
In reply to Indeed, by using the arrow… by cadiz1
I'm trying to think if my layout changes for 3.0.2 could have caused this, but I can't see how. Can you verify this by checking some older builds? I think it more likely this has been a problem ever since I got text moving by cursor to work during the beta period, and the fix I made shortly afterwards to make sure this does get saved doesn't work for fingerings, for some reason.
In reply to I'm trying to think if my… by Marc Sabatella
Verify if settings were preserved in older builds when positionning fingering with arrow keys? Or other thing?
In other words, what is supposed to work : settings with mouse AND arrow keys both to be preserved? (with automatic placement enabled or not?)
In reply to Verify if settings were… by cadiz1
Yes, adjustments should be preserved whether made by mouse or cursor. So, I want to verify if manual adjustments of fingerings by cursor keys ever worked after save/reload. I only enabled moving text by keyboard fairly late in the game, during beta 2 I think, and for a few days (weeks?) after, none of these changes would survive save/reload, but I believe I fixed that shortly before release.
Actually, though, I'm now quite confused, because for me, fingering adjustments are saved whether made by cursor or mouse. So I am actually no seeing a problem?
In reply to Yes, adjustments should be… by Marc Sabatella
Always the same failure here with the latest build 3337e52
(with automatic placement enabled, an adjusted positionning of RH fingering is kept if done with the mouse, but not with the arrow keys on save)
I'm checking to see if there's a change somewhere.
In reply to Always the same failure here… by cadiz1
I notice a change on October 25.
With this one (bd2928d), the behaviour is erratic. When the fingering is entered, so although it is highlighted, it does not respond (as if it was sticked in place) to the arrow keys. But, if dragging it a bit with the mouse first, then the arrow keys became operational. And the settings were kept on Save.
On the other hand, with this one (84dbe94), the behavior becomes as expected again: after input, the fingering is immediately responsive to the arrow keys' requests.
Though, the settings are lost after reload. There are some commits between these two nightlies (very dense time!), but maybe this one?https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/commit/96af32eee7d559cce443aba1f…
I submit the report.
In reply to I notice a change on October… by cadiz1
Done: #283788: Position adjustments on text with Up/Down key is lost on save
In reply to I notice a change on October… by cadiz1
OK, it's very specific: Up and Down by themselves don't work (and you can also see the Reset button is not activated in the Inspector, same underlying reason), but Left and Right do work, so does Ctrl+Up/Down.