3.1 Finds corrupted measures. Adds extra space in measures.
This score was fine before installing 3.1. Upon opening the message says the file is corrupted.
Three measures produce this message:
Measure 3, staff 3incomplete. Expected: 8/4; Found 11529/5760.
Same message for measures 5 and 9.
Re-opend twice. Same messages. Now Musescore crashes on opening.
These three measure in staff 3 have two groups of 9:8. In 3.1 a 256th rest was put between the two nonets. The bar line was drawn, followed by a space of about 1/3 of a line.
Score attached.
K Austin
Comments
See: https://musescore.org/en/node/54721
Score attached?
In reply to See: https://musescore.org… by Shoichi
Thank you. This explains why the score could not be attached.
In reply to Thank you. This explains why… by kevin.austin@v…
No, it does not. It may explay why you can't save it online, but you can atatch it here, even a corrupt one
We'd need the score to investigate
In reply to We'd need the score to… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you. As noted in https://musescore.org/en/node/54721 it is not possible to upload a corrupted file. I will try erasing the measure and re-entering the part. The 1024th rest in the middle of the bar could be selected, but I was unable to delete it.
The attached screen image is similar to the 2 measures that follow. I just looked at the Preview of this message and the .jpg doesn't appear.
I trashed 3.1 -- with the predictable result. I have removed it from the trash so that I could open the file.
I'll let you know what happens.
Kevin
In reply to Thank you. As noted in … by kevin.austin@v…
it is not possible to upload a on .com
Attach it here
;-)
The attached screen image?
In reply to Thank you. As noted in … by kevin.austin@v…
That page does say that, and if if would it'd be wrong. musescore.org's issue tracker and forums don't care at all about the content of attachments, it just cares about the extension.
It is not possible to upload a corrupt score to musescore.com (or use 'Save online"), but that is not what we're asking here
In reply to That page does say that, and… by Jojo-Schmitz
Sorry I don't understand. I dragged the file to the Choose a file window, twice, and you didn't see it.
However . . . please see my nest email about rogue 1024th rests.
In reply to Sorry I don't understand. I… by kevin.austin@v…
https://musescore.org/en/node/289899
In reply to That page does say that, and… by Jojo-Schmitz
Ah . . the 'drag and drop' doesn't work. I need to use the Choose a file. The nonuplet problem seems to have been fixed. The extra space is still there.
Thanks
Kevin
In reply to Thank you. As noted in … by kevin.austin@v…
You can attach any .mscz or .mscx file to your response to a message on these forums. There have been many corrupt and very broken files loaded here. The forum does not try top open the score like musescore.com does.
Edit: follow the link in your email to the forum and click reply to a message to attach a file.
In reply to You can attach any .mscz or … by mike320
Thank you. The "Choose a file" works, the 'or drop and drag' doesn't. I have 'fixed' the nonuplet and extra 1024th rest problem, but still have the space at the end of the staff system.
In reply to Thank you. The "Choose a… by kevin.austin@v…
Have seen that in Windows 10 and Edge, nit in Windows 7 and Chrome...
But as said further down:
There's not much point in attaching the non-corrupt file here
In reply to We'd need the score to… by Jojo-Schmitz
OS 10.14.3
I moved 3.1 to the desktop, opened the file [ignoring the corrupt file message], deleted the offending measures [now 4 of them], Saved as, closed 3.1, opened 3.1 with the "NEW Temp NEW Preludio . . ". I have tried to attach it with this email.
Measures 3, 4, 5, and 6 have extra 'space' on each staff system. Selecting the default breve rest only selects the portion of the measure with entries.
I will try to re-enter the [now] missing nonets and see if the [lost] space disappears.
Carrying on.
Thanks
Kevin
In reply to OS 10.14.3 I moved 3.1 to… by kevin.austin@v…
Use the "File attachments" option at the bottom of the page, just above the Save and Preview buttons when you're typing your post. Click on Choose a file
HTH
In reply to Use the "File attachments"… by Shoichi
I have erased the corrupted measures. They are in 8/4. The horn part is two eighth-note nonuplets, which I entered. Musescore entered the nonuplets correctly. At the end of the measure it added a 1024th rest. It then deleted a 1024th 'note' from the next measure. I deleted the extra rests.
I have re-entered the notes in the 4 measures. There is still the extra space at the end of the staff system.
Interestingly, I had seen this behavior before, maybe a decade ago with Finale. It turned out to be a rounding error in the tuplet algorithm, because – I was told, the seventeenth divisions I was entering were rounded, leaving an extra 'unit', which the algorithm interpreted as a 1024th rest.
This was for Finale a very obscure problem, but they did a minor update to assure that each 'beat' added to the correct number of virtual units.
In reply to I have erased the corrupted… by kevin.austin@v…
There's not much point in attaching the non-corrupt file here
In reply to There's not much point in… by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes. I fixed the corruptions, apparently, except for the blank space at the end of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th staff systems. I am attaching an older version of the file as it is flagged as corrupted.
Thanks
Kevin
In reply to Yes. I fixed the corruptions… by kevin.austin@v…
Hmm, score last saved with MuseScore 3.0.5, that indeed had an issue with 9-lets, due to some bizarre rounding errors, 3.1 avoids that problem by not rounding in the first place but storing fractions instead.
I though though that 3.1 should load and fix those kind of corruptions on the fly. Maybe I'm wrong on that, or something else is going on.
In reply to Hmm, score last saved with… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you everyone for your work on this, and musescore in general.
The file opened with the extra space issue resolved, but did open with the "Corruption" notice – the same as the first time, but without the 1024th rests.
I quit, and reopened. The corruption notice did not come up.
As an aside, in m1 there are trills and four of the five are still on the page -- I have removed Automatic placement, and placed them above the chord. When the file is reopened, they appear about 1 1/2 staves higher. [¿]
In reply to Thank you everyone for your… by kevin.austin@v…
Can you start a new thread and attach the relevant version of the score and precise steps to reproduce?
In reply to Can you start a new thread… by Marc Sabatella
It was pointed out that I was using 3.05, which I found occasionally erratic, the problem of the roaming trills being one of them. Watching how musescore does certain things, I think there are many adjustments being made 'behind the scene', such as moving staves apart when lots of ledger lines, articulations or texts appear between staves in a system. There is a box for 'stacking order'. I'm not sure what it does but I assume it relates to how elements that conflict are sequenced, and the additional required space is allocated. But I don't find it explained in the manual so can't use this feature knowledgeably.
The developers are doing a great job juggling the demands and I congratulate all of you for your dedication.
Kevin
In reply to It was pointed out that I… by kevin.austin@v…
Stacking order indicates which item will be drawn on which item when they collide.