cellos don't respond to cresendos
I've tried in about a dozen different ways to get dynamics on cellos, and they don't work....only with cellos. This happens even if I start a new score. I use the exact same method for all the other instruments. Start with pp end with ff and then add cresendo hairpin.
changing the cello playback in the mixer to another instrument makes no difference. Changing a responsive instrument like violin to cello in the mixer MOSTLY works
I'm stumped
thanks in advance
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In the track area of the Mixer:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/mixer#track
click on each instrument and make sure that the 'Patch' displays the correct sound.
In your posted score, for me, both the cello and the contrabass play the crescendo. (To hear clearly, I soloed each instrument using the Mixer.)
The violin and the bassoon do not. Strangely, they display 'Grand Piano' as the 'Patch' (instrument sound) in the Mixer, even though a piano is not heard.
To fix, right click on a staff and in Staff/Part Properties change the instrument to the same one. That is, even though it shows 'violin' click the 'Change Instrument' box and choose violin from the Instrument list. This will correct the erroneous name in the 'Patch'.
Here I changed the violin and bassoon to get the crescendo to play:
cellosnodynamics_2.mscz
See if it works for you.
I'm using MuseScore 3.2.3
In reply to In the track area of the… by Jm6stringer
I’m pretty sure the Grand Piano patch in the string section instruments has been corrected by Jo-Jo S in the next release. But having it off in the bassoon is a new problem I think.
In reply to I’m pretty sure the Grand… by marty strasinger
Yes, indeed, this should be fixed in the next release (see https://musescore.org/en/node/294006)
In reply to In the track area of the… by Jm6stringer
thanks for your efforts. Oddly enough when I downloaded my own post all the patches were set correctly. When I downloaded your correction it showed up on my machine as having all the patches set to stereo grand! Still the same issue, no crescendo on the cello unless i create the whole notes independently then tie them one at a time rather than clicking on the "longa" twice, but I get a "notched" crescendo where there is a distinct pulse change in volume across the measures.
This has added to the mystery!
but again, I really appreciate all the help on this forum, it is a great cherry on top of a wonderful piece of software.
In reply to In the track area of the… by Jm6stringer
I played around a bit more. If I changed the cello patch to "cello fast exp" the dynamics appeared. I then turned "violin 2 fast exp" on the violin to a generic "violin" and the crescendo vanished. So I've found a work around, just not the reason why.
In reply to I played around a bit more. … by JeanneElaine
the exp channels are necessary for single note dynamics with the default dynamics method. If you open the synthesizer and then the dynamics tab and change dynamics method to CC evets only... and CC to use to CC 11 most all sound fonts will work.
In reply to the exp channels are… by mike320
thanks for that. Your help is appreciated. Now I'm trying to figure out how to apply the dynamics to one voice only!
In reply to thanks for that. Your help… by JeanneElaine
Not possible currently , see #58031: Dynamics/hairpin range for Voice
In reply to Not possible currently , … by Jojo-Schmitz
thanks. I was puzzled about the 'single note dynamics' because i thought, "this isn't a single note, its the same note tied together over a bunch of measures!" then i realized i must have been kicked in the head. i figured out on my own that the dynamics did not work on multiple voices as well, the hard or experiential way. so my solution has been to create another staff of the instrument to carry the second voice because I actually use the musescore sound output for finished work, or post process it in audacity rather than get a way bigger monitor so my old eyes can actually see Cakewalk without face convulsions. Once the score works, i can create another one that is just for printing or looking impressive online. I'm just so happy with musescore the extra labour doesn't even count as such.
thanks again.