note names
for the next updare it would be nice if you could do something to separate the notenames from other bits and pieces. It is an improvement that they are beside the chords, not all on top piling up, but I have to drag them apart each one.
for the next updare it would be nice if you could do something to separate the notenames from other bits and pieces. It is an improvement that they are beside the chords, not all on top piling up, but I have to drag them apart each one.
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Are you talking about a plugin, perhaps? I don't think msot notenames are designed for complex music like this, more for children's books. But, consider using the built-in note naming instead (right-click staff, Staff Properties, Advanced Style Properties, Notehead scheme).
In reply to Are you talking about a… by Marc Sabatella
they provide a quick impression of scalar relations of harmonay and melody, stable, unstable , tone tendencies etc (perricone). If I were a highly professional like yourself I probably had a better method.
In reply to they provide a quick… by Ja'hé
Notehead scheme is the better solution for this, almost rendering that plugin useless. But yes, it uses fixed offsets and does not benefit from autoplace or placement above/below, where maybe it could or should
In reply to Nothead scheme is the better… by Jojo-Schmitz
Interesting. How would I use the notehead scheme for scalar relations ?
In reply to Interesting. How would I use… by Ja'hé
? With that notehead scheme you'd just have the notenames inside the note heads.
Then there's Chord symbols and now also Roman Numeral Analysis
In reply to Interesting. How would I use… by Ja'hé
Notehead scheme shows the same information as your image...
In reply to Notehead scheme shows the… by Jm6stringer
I don't want to sound "elitist", but I think that learning to read music is an absolute necessity and bridge that must be crossed when learning to read music, as it were. The whole reason staves and notes were devised was to show the vertical and horizontal relationships between tones graphically; note-names do this measurably less well. If you don't have training wheels on a bicycle, you might fall off while learning. You will not break any bones trying to read music the way it is intended to be read. Just my $.02.
In reply to I don't want to sound … by [DELETED] 1831606
My sentiment is that perhaps note names are necessary for what the OP calls "scalar relations".
(Whatever that might be.)
In reply to My sentiment is that perhaps… by Jm6stringer
To me, the deep connection between the staff and the notion of diatonic scale does that for you by design, but, the OP should speak in to this ...
In reply to To me, the deep connection… by [DELETED] 1831606
The whole reason staves and notes were devised was to show the vertical and horizontal relationships between tones graphically; note-names do this measurably less well.
...the deep connection between the staff and the notion of diatonic scale does that for you by design...
I do agree...
Music notation, though it may appear as blobs of ink (ala Jackson Pollock), does carry recognizable shape and meaning. Any competent guitar player should instantly recognize something like this:
It's definitely very grapical (and very visual). Also additional info. about relationships between tones is deductible.
Slightly off topic..
Someone (known to MuseScore) has designed art based on this graphical nature of music notation:
https://www.c82.net/offthestaff/
(the OpenScore "visualizer")
In reply to My sentiment is that perhaps… by Jm6stringer
to enlighten you regarding "scalar relations"I refer to "great songwriting techniques" Jack Perricone or "Jazz Piano" Ray Santisi, both Berklee. Or. Rameau, Tchaikovsky. If yo u can't or don't want to reply to a question how about remainig quiet ? Rather superflous. OP
In reply to I don't want to sound … by [DELETED] 1831606
BSG what makes you think I can't ?
In reply to what makes you think I can't… by Ja'hé
It sounded like you were recommending it as a learning aid; sorry if
I misunderstood. Exactly what value do you find in them? I don't see how they "make relations clearer" for one who can read the music on his or her instrument or abstractly.
In reply to It sounded like you were… by [DELETED] 1831606
to clarify things. When I play my instrument the little dot tells ma where to put my finger, without thinking of notenames, just intuitively, When I analyse I think of the circle of fifths or fourths and many parameters applying, in notenames, what else. When I write I combine both, intuition and analysis, put the little dot where my logical thinking, or intellect, is telling me., or what I played on my instrument, without thinking of notenames. That is my way and I do not care what or how anyone thinks about that. And when I ask a straight forward question about a feature which has been changed with a setup I expect a simple straight forward answer and not a questioning of my abilities or nonabilities. It is of no concern to anybody.
In reply to to clarify things. When I… by Ja'hé
I'm sorry for impugning your abilities. My fault. My intent was to understand your motivation, and nothing more. Again, I apologize for my inadvertent slight.
In reply to I'm sorry for impugning your… by [DELETED] 1831606
But I am duely impressed by your abilities and wished I knew only a fraction of that. But my live was rather adventurious with too many other things.
In reply to But I am duely impressed by… by Ja'hé
Thank you for your kind remarks. Enjoy note names if they bring you pleasure, and they ought work correctly!
In reply to to clarify things. When I… by Ja'hé
And just to clarify: the notenames plugin has not been changed so it causes those collisions, what might have changed between some 3.x versions is how those offsets get interpreted.
Whatever, the new version from my PR should solve that, check the attached
In reply to And just to clarify: the… by Jojo-Schmitz
thank you
Which MuseScore version is that?
Anyway, the fix seems simple enough, see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/5467