Musescore 3 missing topmenu
I have many problems, since downloading musescore 3. The UI is changed and most of all, The top menu has disappeared!!!
When I start I see a top-menu missing th normal items like files etc. As can be seen in the uploaded screenshot. It is over 2 screens but the information is in the left screen.
Please tell me how I can get back the top-menu. It seems that is it is hidden but I don't know how to get it back, The handbook is not any help. I have tried musescore 3 and musecore 3.2.3 both as the same problem.
I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and use musescore for over 10 years (and yes I'm I haven't published my compositions and arrangements for 2 piano's as I don't think much people are interested and the arrangements are of jazz classics).
Hope somebody can help me out,
Yoers,
Joep L. Blom
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Right click into the toolbars, there you should be able to switch on the menu again. If everything breaks, try reset to factory settings via command line
In reply to Right click into the… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for your speedy reply. However, your suggestion doesn't work. It is not quite clear what you mean by resetting to factory settings using CL. Do you mean a fresh install or a resetting of Ubuntu? Both I have tried. The only thing I haven't - as yet - tried is using a fresh install of Ubuntu studio on a separate partition as I think of using a separate partition for all my musical work (composing/arranging and editing recordings) to separate it clearly from my other work.
I assume this problem has to do with the complete reworking of Musescore using a completely different program scheme (I'm an old programmer originally but ALGOL and FORTRAN are nowadays completely outdated programming languages).
In reply to Thanks for your speedy reply… by Joep L. Blom
see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/revert-factory-settings#instruction…
In reply to see https://musescore.org/en… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks. Very iteresting is starts musescore 2.0 (still have that distribution) but also with missing top menu!.
In reply to Thanks. Very iteresting is… by Joep L. Blom
MuseScore 2.0?? The images from your initial post clearly shows MuseScore 3, so you reverted the wrong MuseScore to factory settings
In reply to MuseScore 2.0?? The images… by Jojo-Schmitz
I think I have an idea where all problems arrive. You assume users are new users with a clean fresh system. However old hands (as myself) using musescore since I think 2010 have old installations using the old installation systems. You - and not only you but developers of other programs as well - have jumped to the newest ubuntu fadds like snap and appimage. However, we oldies, not accustomed to these new (and presumably much better!) methods sit with mixed systems so as version 2 had been installed the old way, version 3 apparently is installed snap and that is confusing to my installation witl the result that mscore -F can not find my version 3 as that is installed in a /snap/musescore directory that of course can not be found using the old system ways. Maybe you can shed some light in this most confusing change in setup of my OS.
In reply to I think I have an idea where… by Joep L. Blom
Something like
/snap/musescore/bin/mscore -FI guessIn reply to I think I have an idea where… by Joep L. Blom
FWIW, AppImage is the more or less officially-supported way of distributing MuseScore on Linux. Other versions are less in our control. And for AppImage, you run the AppImage file itself as the executable. Not saying you should necessarily toss the Snap, but if you have trouble, maybe they are somehow inherent to that format, and downloading the AppImage might be simpler.
In reply to FWIW, AppImage is the more… by Marc Sabatella
MArc, Jojo,
Thanks for your replies and suggestions. First sorry for my delay but I had a rehearsal and of course that has priority.
I have also the appimage (which announces itself as "Musescore 3 Portable AppImage") but it has exactly the same image as in my screenshot and alt-right mousebutton doesn't bring up the menu. I will try the return to the factory settings as Jojo advised.
There are many differences with the 2 version and it would be nice to have the differences (and preferably the reasons why) explained. I like musescore enormously and endorse it wholeheartedly in The Netherlands with colleagues (mostly professionals) but I'm of course not anymore very actively engaged due to my age but luckily I can perform regularly and I will publish a few of my arrangements of jazz standards shortly after I have Musescore performing to my satisfaction(!).
In reply to MArc, Jojo, Thanks for your… by Joep L. Blom
There are indeed many enormous improvements (=differences) in MuseScore 3, that’s why it got a new major version number. It came out almost exactly a year ago, so most of the discussion of the differences took place then.
Tthe big one is, automatic placement - MuseScore now automatically detects and avoids collisions between most score elements. Reason should be obvious enough - it saves huge amounts of time you’d otherwise have had to spend on manual adjustments.
Another significant change was removing most of the old modal “properties” dialogs that blocked your view of the score, didn’t take effect until closing, and only affected a single element in most cases. Now you can set most properties live in real time via the Inspector, including doing so for multiple elements, and you can also use it to set the Style default. Again, the reason is saving huge amounts of time.
Any other specific new features or improvements you are curious about, it’s best to ask about individually in separate threads. But also good to read the corresponding Handbook section first, which will very possibly answer your questions already.
In reply to MArc, Jojo, Thanks for your… by Joep L. Blom
Here's some more info on changes:
https://school.masteringmusescore.com/courses/complete/lectures/8897951
In reply to Here's some more info on… by Marc Sabatella
Marc ,
Thanks for the elaborate information. I fear that in my installation something is missing because:
1. I have tried the advice by Jojo to reset to "factory" setting (using 3.2.3. AppImage -F) although it very well guided me and I could choose my native language (Dutch) but the top menu did not appear and I most miss the view menu choice as I'm accustomed to use the navigation bar.
2.1. I want upload a score to musescore.com from musescore but I can not log in because as well google as email login stops with a blank screen.
I will try on a fresh installed Ubuntu Studio what happens and report from that. As I have promised to upload some of my scores I urgently need a solution for that problem.
The only error I encountered with resetting was the following one maybe you can clarify that"
"js: The source list for Content Security Policy directive 'script-src' contains an invalid source: ''report-sample''. It will be ignored."
And (as old programmer) I would like to see an sample musescore.ini if that is possible.
I apologize for bothering you with these problems but they hamper me in my daily work and I would like to have them solved.
Joep
In reply to Marc , Thanks for the… by Joep L. Blom
Reg. Save online see #298483: Save online, login page loop
In reply to Reg. Save online see #298483… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo,
Thanks for that. I just have uploaded one score. However, I just found another problem. Normally you can play your score starting with the space-bar or the tag in the in the upper bar. However both doesn't work and as the topbar menu with the edit-> Preference function in it I can not see if there something is missing. I haven't solved the problems (except of a fresh install of Ubuntu studio). Maybe there are other means to get the topbar back. The -F-trick didn't work.
In reply to Marc , Thanks for the… by Joep L. Blom
As I said, I'm not familiar with the Snap mechanism, but I can easily believe something is just wrong with how it was packaged. That's why I recommend trying the AppImage, this is the one we know works and that we are in control of and are able to support ourselves.
Meanwhile, I'm curious if the menu appears when you a shortcut like Alt+V that would normally open the View menu? Also, most items in the menu have shortcuts themselves. The Navigator does not current have a shortcut set up by default because it isn't a commonly used feature, but you can customize one via Edit / Preferences / Shortcuts - assuming you can get to the menu to reach the Preferences dialog (no default shortcut for that either I'm afraid).
As for sample musescore.ini, I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Do you mean, you have found yours, and wish to compare it with someone else's? I've attached mine, but FWIW I don't see anything in it about the menu.
In reply to As I said, I'm not familiar… by Marc Sabatella
Marc & Jojo,
Apology for the time lag but I was a few days away and busy with other activities.
The problem with the missing menu items is solved!. It had nothing to do with Musescore but with Ubuntu 18.04 where the windowmanager system apparently completely has been changed. Luckily I found an item (with another program) where the solution was to use Mate Tweak (I'm using Ubuntu Mate) to restore the window manager but as with most OS a complete manual can not be found as everything is distributed in a myriad of different packages but apparently only old programmers/users complain. We would like the simplicity of Linux 0.99 (1992)!
By the way, Marc thanks for your .ini file. It gives me - by comparison with my own - an idea how it is constructed.
In reply to Marc & Jojo, Apology for … by Joep L. Blom
Glad it worked out! I'm curious then how menus are supposed to work - is it like Mac where the window is at the top of the screen, rather than attached to the window? A quick web search didn't yield anything enlightening, mostly just others facing similar confusion and people suggesting various hacky workarounds to what seems like must be a pretty fundamental problem.
In reply to Glad it worked out! I'm… by Marc Sabatella
Well, As far as I have found out it is all centered around Gnome, The basic controlling mechanism that, as I can remember started out as a simple graphic management tool ( in the old days we called it a " sac of graphic subroutines") like Unix started as a bunch of machine-language subroutines together called the C-language ( as successor to the A- and the B-language which were written by Kernigan and Richie, 2 engineers with Bell labs who wanted a multi-user multi-programming language to run on the PDP-11, one of the first 16-bit machines in 1969).
In my eyes the problem with modern computer languages is the complexity due to the fact that too many people all give their addition. Ubuntu was in the beginning of tie century (around 2006) a rather simple and clear rendition of Linux but lately it is becoming too complex, a development you see also in other OS'es (OSX, Windows, Android, and others). The reason they want too many features that users can choose from but users want as OS to work with not to have first detect all the possibilities the new version gives. A problem modern cars suffer also!
In reply to Well, As far as I have found… by Joep L. Blom
I'm pretty familiar with the overall history of C and Unix, but I don't see how that explains how a major Linux distribution could just decide to strip all programs of their menus. There has got to be more to it than that...
In reply to I'm pretty familiar with the… by Marc Sabatella
OK, I let maybe my fantasy a little bit go but it is a mysterious idea -for me - to separate menu's from the rest of the WIndow make-up without giving any reason. However, I assume that old programmers (like I was a,o,) have antique ideas about the logic used in programming. However I hope this will be remembered for later. If you know Ubuntu and have tweak you go to WIndows and then you see Window Manager and in the selection there sits the problem.