How to use MIDI and MuseScore
Is there an way to imput notes via MIDI from a piano onto BOTH clefs on the MuseScore program? Or to import a MIDI file into MuseScore?
Is there an way to imput notes via MIDI from a piano onto BOTH clefs on the MuseScore program? Or to import a MIDI file into MuseScore?
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Not at the same time. But MIDI import exists and works
In reply to Not at the same time by Jojo-Schmitz
How does that work?
In reply to How does that work? by IWEM
Use File / Open File to open a midi file, and you'll see it produce a score (of sorts) -- a playable score, but not a pretty, hand-crafted one. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/midi-import . For instructions on using a MIDI keyboard, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input#midi-keyboard .
In reply to Use File / Open File to open… by [DELETED] 1831606
Thanks, but how do you get the midi file?
In reply to Thanks, but how do you get… by IWEM
Why do you want to play midi files if you don't have any? Normally, someone gives you a midi file, or you find it somewhere, and you're interested in its content, as with a book or a movie. If you have a music editor such as MuseScore, you don't purposefully create midi files with the intent of importing them later.
In reply to Why do you want to play midi… by [DELETED] 1831606
Thanks, I see. Basically, I want to have my notation on MS the exact way I play it in real life on a piano. So I'm trying to find out ways to get the music from my piano to my computer.
In reply to Thanks, I see. Basically, I… by IWEM
Thanks for explaining. That's an extremely difficult task for a computer, especially given that once you start playing a note, neither you nor the computer know when it's going to end. Your piano-like synthesizer probably can produce a midi file that will allow you to feed it back into the piano and reproduce the same sounds. MuseScore can indeed read such files (in the way I said), and attempt to impose meter and order on it, but this is a chancy proposition --- no program can read your mind. Even the playing of skilled classical professionals is rarely exact enough for a computer to "really figure out" what the "correct" timing is, let alone more subtle aspects of notation (worst case -- voice crossing). "The exact way you play it on the piano", to the millisecond, is easy to reproduce in score --- just "import midi", but as you'll find out, it's rarely close to what you really have in mind; it does not look like published music. This is a difficult problem.
Right now I'm trying to transcribe a 1955 organ improvisation from an MP3. I can never be sure if the artist really intended a short or long measure, or just lost count, or whether the dissonant note is really what he intended, etc. (and I have sufficient knowledge of the idiom to do a passable job of reading his mind, but only passable). A computer could not do it at all (of course, there was no such thing as midi 65 years ago). This is a difficult problem. Can you say for sure that your own playing is more metric/metronomic than that, or that you really know what the score you want looks like?
In reply to Thanks, I see. Basically, I… by IWEM
Maybe all you want is a midi transcription of what you play. If your piano/synth can't do this by itself, there are programs (MuseScore is not one of them) to which you can plug in your piano/synth and say "record", then start playing, then finish playing and press "stop" and it will make a MIDI file which, technically, satisfies your goal of "get the music from the piano to my computer". And you can email it or play it back any time. Midi is ideal for that; it is like a piano roll. All it cares is the timing of note starts and note ends (and for better keyboards, how hard you hit it ("velocity sensitive")). If that's your goal, it's very easy.
But the matter of producing a score that someone can look at and understand or play from is a wholly different, and very difficult, problem, especially if the person improvising did not try to keep to regular and understandable rhythms, and rarely doable automatically.
In reply to Maybe all you want is a midi… by [DELETED] 1831606
What would be a program that could record the midi?
In reply to What would be a program that… by IWEM
Look up "record midi" on the web. I don't use such a program, because the important midi-based instrument I have is also computer-based, and records its own midi. Others here probably have suggestions, Ziya in particular.
In reply to Look up "record midi" on the… by [DELETED] 1831606
Or "transcribe midi". Something called "Soundcloud" comes up that claims such ability, but is not free, and I have no experience with it. Ziya, are you listening?
It would not be crazy for MuseScore to acquire such an ability. It is not peripheral to the task of inputting music, and MS already knows how to listen to midi input devices.
In reply to Or "transcribe midi". … by [DELETED] 1831606
Okay, thank you for all your help!
In reply to What would be a program that… by IWEM
If you need software that records and edits MIDI, Sekaiju, an open source software, will do the trick.
Sekaiju is a MIDI editor. It is not a DAW. Therefore, it takes up little space and is easy to configure.
Just open the zip file into a directory. No installation required.
With this software you can record what you play on the piano and save it as a MIDI file. (with File => Save as: Sekaiju's original file format extension is "skj". So you need the "Save as" command to save it as midi-file.)
https://openmidiproject.osdn.jp/Sekaiju_en.html
But if you don't play the rhythms in place, Musescore software won't help you much. So the rhythms you play can be guesses differently by the software.
Therefore, you may need to perform a "quantize" command in the Sekaiju software before opening it in Musescore software.
I've seen this topic before, but I had no idea because I didn't fully understand its purpose. Maybe you want to save what you play on the piano as a midi file. Then you may also want to open this midi file in Musescore.
If that's not the answer you're looking for, I'm sorry I wasn't helpful.
In reply to If you need software that… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Yeah, he's looking for software that simply saves what he plays on the piano as a midi file, not edits it.
In reply to If you need software that… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Thank you, I'll check Sekaiju out.
In reply to If you need software that… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Where is the quantize function in Sekaiju?
In reply to Where is the quantize… by IWEM
In the "Edit" Menu
Seventh from the bottom.
In reply to In the "Edit" Menu Seventh… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Thank you.
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