Playback from selected measure

• Apr 16, 2016 - 03:02

Hi
I want to play my song always from the selected measure o time, as it is in sound editing software.
Currently, Musescore plays the song after the last played note.
For example: we select the measure 10, we play the music from measures 10 to 12 (lets say its last note), then we pause it (space key), the selection is still in measure 10, but if we push again the play button (or space key), the song is played from measure 13.
I have solved this provisionally by using the bucle playback button, but always need to select the measures that are needed.

  • It could be an other playback button to play from selected measure, that can be associated with space key
  • Also it could be an option to always play from the selected measure with the same play button

    Regards


  • Comments

    In reply to by Jm6stringer

    Currently I use this way, but now we need to have selected the first note to the last note to play, I'd like to have the option to start in a selected note and if it is not selected a last note to play, musescore plays till the end of the file.
    Regards
    (sorry for the language, I doubt about my english)

    In reply to by Jm6stringer

    It is better, now just one last step to what i have in mind: on that loop mode, if i want to select a new starting note, i'd like the option to select it with just one click without having to assign the new first note in the play panel again and again for each new starting note.
    You helped me to express what i wanted. Thanks

    In reply to by Marc Sabatella

    --Please add a STOP button, please, please, please--
    I'm struggling with the same issue, the loop playback fixes the problem somewhat, but I think the best option would be to have somewhere a "Stop" button. So the spacebar can still work as Play-Pause, but there's a button that can be assigned to any key, that stops the playback in progress, and when you press the spacebar again it starts form the selected note.

    Why I would use this feature so much?
    Most of the time, I use Musescore as an aid for learning a score, so I write down the piece I need to study, grab my instrument and play along.
    When I make a mistake I don't want the playback to advance any further, I just want to stop, click a note to start (a bit before the problem) and try again, (stop) and again (stop) and again...
    So I'm holding an instrument, a bit away from the computer, and finding the mouse cursor, opening tabs, finding the loop button, etc. is not really practical.

    I just found that I can open the playback menu with F11, and I can probably assign some other shortcuts to make the process faster, but I think a STOP button is more simple and intuitive and thousands of users would greatly benefit from having it in the next version.
    So please add a Stop button and people will love it. Thanks a lot!

    In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

    I could see that being a valid request, but I read the following: " I just want to stop, click a note to start (a bit before the problem) and try again". That's specifically not starting from the note that had already been selected.

    FWIW, the loop feature can be used pretty effectively to restart from the same place over and over if that is what is desired. Simply select the region you want to practice, hit the loop command (which can be assigned a keybaord shortcut if you like, and now Space works to keep restarting there.

    So as far as I can tell both use cases are already handled very well. Not bad for a program whose primary function is notation, not to be a practice aid!

    In reply to by Marc Sabatella

    Hi, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear with my previous post, I'll try again.
    I think your program is awesome I love it and I use it a lot. I also understand it's primary function is notation which it does extremely well and the resulting scores look very neat both on screen and printed.

    I mostly use MuseScore for transcriptions or to write down my own compositions and quite often while composing (and also when I practice) I find that I need to hear a section a couple of times. If I already know which measures I'll be rehearsing again and again I can set a loop, but oftentimes I don't know it beforehand. So what I'd love to have is something that allows me to do that quick repeated listening "on the fly".

    About the Spacebar: being so large on the keyboard it's perfect to reach at any time and it currently works superbly to start and stop the playback... (the first time)
    As I'm trying to be more clear on this post, let's call "Hit" each time I press the Spacebar:
    "Hit 1" The playback starts from the beginning (or the last selected note) This is excellent.
    "Hit 2" Stops the playback, so far so good.
    "Hit 3" Playback resumes from the current playing position: Very useful, but sometimes I don't want to go on, specially if I stopped the playback because I spotted something wrong. In those occasions setting a loop is a working option, and of course it's very well handled, I agree with you on that, but I think it would be very useful to also have a button to forget the current playback position.

    In other words: When "Hit 3" resumes the playback it feels to me that "Hit 2" was more like a "Pause" than a hard "Stop" and quite often I need a hard stop that forgets the current playing position and lets "Hit 3" to behave exactly like "Hit 1" did. So I can just click a note and do: "Start - Stop", "Start - Stop" a couple of times, always from the same note, without having to set a loop. Very spontaneous, very intuitive. ("Hit 1", stop, "Hit 1", stop, "Hit 1"... and let it run to the end of the piece if I don't stop it again)

    How do I get to do that with the program as it is? Well as I said, I use the loop function if I know beforehand it will be needed, but most of the time I just click a note, hit the Spacebar to start, hit it again to stop, and then, instead of reaching for the mouse and scrolling back (maybe to the previous page), and clicking again the note I wanted... I just reach for the arrow keys: I hit Right Arrow, to jump from the selected note to the next, then I hit Left Arrow to return to the note I needed, and then I can hit the Spacebar again to confidently start the playback from the note selected. Reaching for the arrows is faster than reaching for the mouse and scrolling, but sometimes I forget to do use the arrows, and confidently start the playback... not from the selected note.

    Honestly, I would like very much to have the chance to set the Spacebar to work as Play/Hard Stop every time, and to set another button for the "Pause" function (that remembers the current playback position). But if that's not to be considered, at least to have a "hard stop" button that I can shortcut to some key would be great.

    Actually, in MuseScore 2 as it is, when the playback is running I can stop it using either the Spacebar or the "Escape" key. And then, Spacebar resumes the playback the same way for both cases. So... what if "Esc" could stop the playback as if "Hit 1" was an error, forget the current playing position, and let you use the Spacebar as "Hit 1" again?

    Ok, I hope this time I was a bit more clear, sorry if it was way too long. Thanks for the wonderful program you have given us all. Best regards.

    In reply to by nzwork

    Per Marc's suggestion to use a shortcut (menu item: Edit -> Preferences -> Shortcuts), I defined the 'loop in' shortcut as the letter L.
    See:
    https://musescore.org/en/handbook-advanced-topics/preferences#shortcuts

    So...
    After I stop playback, I now have two possibilities, i.e. playback options:
    1. Press spacebar again for playback to resume from where it pauses (as you have mentioned).
    2. Press 'L' and the start loop flag appears at the original starting note, so playback reverts to that note when the spacebar gets pressed again.

    Also, selecting a different note and pressing 'L' will relocate the start loop flag to that new note - having those same two playback options.
    (No need to use the right arrow, left arrow, spacebar combination.)

    Regards.

    In reply to by Jm6stringer

    Precisely. You don't have to know beforehand and that you will want to restart playback from the original position. You can set the loop in point with a single keystroke even after pausing. So again, you can already get exactly what you now say you want already - an easy way to restart playback from the previous position. As well as what you originally asked for - the ability to click a new position and start there. As well as the default behavior - continuing where you left off. All three behaviors are already available and just a click away.

    In reply to by Marc Sabatella

    Ok, I get it, there's a faster way to use the loop function and I'll start using it from now on, but it requires some tweaking. It's good enough for me, but it demands a bit of knowledge, and it's not very intuitive.

    I bet that just as I got frustrated and came here looking for an answer, there must be hundreds of users, probably basic users, who'll never do that, and won't find it.
    In my mind (I'm not saying I'm right, I know this is wrong and lazy) In my mind, a loop function sounds like something you have to explore and learn before you can properly use it, something that might have a powerful set of options... when you only need one.
    Besides, many of us arrive to MuseScore after years of using lots of different programs and players and DAWs or whatever, where most of them have a stop button you can use without setting a loop. It's just a common place, it's just like the QWERTY keyboard that's only useful because we are all too familiar with it.

    So thanks a lot for all the explanations, everyone who replied and helped. I know how to better use MuseScore now. I understand my suggestion is not something the program actually needs, I see it more like a tiny improvement for we basic users finding our way around. Thanks

    In reply to by nzwork

    I would just add that it is important to keep in mind that there are different types of "basic users" will have different expectations and different notions of what is "intuitive". You mention years of using lots of different DAWs, but probably the vast majority of users have never even heard the term DAW before much less ever used one. Loop functions in are something probably only a very small percentage of users have need for, which is why there are no default shortcuts for them. There actually used to be, but we got tons of complaints from people who were accessing it inadvertently and didn't understand what was happening. And FWIW, in programs I have used that make a differentiation between Pause and Stop, the effect of Stop is to clear all memory of the previous start point, so the next playback starts at the beginning. Whereas I have used quite a few that work exactly like MuseScore in this respect.

    Anyhow, the point is, it's impossible to produce something that is "intuitive" for everyone, because everyone is different, with different previous experience and different expectations for what they want to get out of a notation program. So the best we can do is provide useful functions and document them and support them and when someone wants and help people discover how to use these these useful functions in a way that best addresses their own particular unique needs.

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