How do I attribute one syllable to 2 notes?
I would like to attribute one syllable to 2 notes that come one after the other, how do I do that?
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I would like to attribute one syllable to 2 notes that come one after the other, how do I do that?
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Can you post a pic or sample file of what you want? I think I know what you are talking about, but seeing it would be better.
With an '_'
In reply to With an '_' by Jojo-Schmitz
Yeah Jojo-Schmitz, I thought of the same thing, though it seemed to have not worked at the time.
I know tried entering _ two times and it does work though the syllable is not simmetrically centered between the two notes.
schepers, here's a sample of what I'm trying to do.
I have managed to suggest the idea of that syllable being sung across two descending notes, but I would like it centered between the two, this is a score for a soprano.
The reason why I want it symmetrically centered is because the last "r" of that syllable falls on the second one, and, even if I had it looking like "iar ___ " as it is in the sample that case would still require the performer to think of where to put that last word, not to mention the fact that that syllable is also part of the next word, and, I find myself not knowing how to also add a "-" to suggest the continuity of this syllable to the other note.
Pretty demanding, isn't it?
In reply to Yeah Jojo-Schmitz, I thought by tonyjustme
Ah, yes, I had forgotton about the 2nd '_'... and yes MuseScore rendres this a bit wierd, different from e.g. Lilipond, which does center the sylable under tied notes (and even without the '_')
In reply to Ah, yes, I had forgotton by Jojo-Schmitz
OK, now this is weird!
I clearly remember posting to this yesterday and also adding a screenshot, whatever happened to my post? Did any of you guys get notified of it through e-mail or something?
Yet Jojo=Schmitz, the "_" symbol is needed twice in order for that to happen, but that still doesn't balance the syllable so that it appears in the middle of those 2 notes.
The other problem that I'm having is that I have to add a "." after that to let the soprano know that the line is ending, and, MuseScore doesn't allow that yet though I would really like it to!
So, here are my requests:
- Not only do I need the syllable to be simmetrically centered between the 2 notes that it is being sung on, I also need to put a "." at the end of that syllable.
Could you nice developer guys please implement that?
Thanks!
(Here's a screenshot of that not being centered, I would also like to have the option of no lines afater the syllable, because if it's simmetrically centered between the 2 notes, the reader will certainly understand that it is to be sung on both of the notes, hence eliminating the need for the long line after it that doesn't also let me add a "." at the end that I really need to add.)
In reply to OK, now this is weird! I by tonyjustme
Put the . before the _
And actually my request would be that under tied notes (tie or slur) the lyrics automagically cetner (to that tie/slur), without a need for '_'.
In reply to Put the . before the _ by Jojo-Schmitz
Yeah, I also thought of that, but that doesn't make any sense does it, is the interpreter supposed to interpret a dot for the lenght of the line that comes after it?
I would much rather have the punctuation mark at the end of the line regardless of what it is.
Your request is also my request Jojo-Schmitz, that's what I also wanted!
In reply to Put the . before the _ by Jojo-Schmitz
I wouldn't always want that behaviour. Particularly with ties, but also sometimes with slurs, that would place a syllable of the lyrics much too far right. I don't have any problem with the current behaviour.
In reply to Centring lyrics for tie and slur. by Jon Foote
It is different from what lilypond does, which I'd regard a reference.
In reply to It is different from what by Jojo-Schmitz
Lilypond doesn't center the lyrics below tied or slurred notes. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Alig…
Can you give an example?
In reply to Lilypond doesn't center the by [DELETED] 5
Maybe I remebered incorrectly, haven't used it in a while, mainly becasue MuseScore's LiliPond output has too many problems. LilyPond didn't like (nor need) the _ stuff though, if there is a tie or slur.
In reply to Lilypond doesn't center the by [DELETED] 5
Well, most probably Sibelius does so which is the Music Notation Standard as of today, so, that's what MuseScore is to be looking up to!
Just watch some of their videos!
Have you guys seen the Sibelius 6 videos? Even those were Ah-mazing! Now they have version 7 out... phew!
I couldn't find the video now because they already upgraded to version 7... It's good to learn from them, because, as of now, they ARE the best, which doesn't mean that MuseScore can't be better than Sibelius, nor does that imply that that is what it's after, though, it is good to learn from competition, they can't copyright an "idea" like idiot Steve Jobs always wanted to, only of an idea are copyrightable!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_vs_microsoft
In reply to Well, most probably Sibelius by tonyjustme
"Well, most probably Sibelius does so which is the Music Notation Standard as of today"
I suspect that Finale may have an issue with this remark!
Lilypond tends to be regarded as the standard, I believe.
Regards
Michael
In reply to "Well, most probably Sibelius by ChurchOrganist
Lylipond? Not in a life-time, MuseScore is WAY better than Lilypond!
Have a look at what Sibelius could do in it's version 6 which keep in mind is "one version ago":
http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/6/demo_movie.html
In reply to Lylipond? Not in a life-time, by tonyjustme
MuseScore way better than LilyPond in sheet music output? You must be kidding!
In reply to MuseScore way better than by Jojo-Schmitz
I didn't say output though, it's in ease of use, I tried using it but gave up...
Sibelius USED to be horrible compared to Finale, but NOT anymore if you look at the video, it beats EVERYTHING on the market right now!
So, it's something like this: Sibelius is 1st, MuseScore is 2nd, that's how I see it in terms of comparing EVERYTHING these 2 offer.
In reply to Lylipond? Not in a life-time, by tonyjustme
I was never a Sibelius fan - I tried it in the days when it was an Archimedes only application and immediately hated the UI.
Hence the reason I opted for Finale. Finale 2004 was the last version I had however, and at the time you could customise the layout better in Finale than in Sibelius.
Musescore has the potential to out perform both of them however.
The power of Open Source lies in the collaborative approach between programmers and users, which combine to produce truly outstanding applications.
Lilypond tends to be regarded as the standard by the MuseScore team due to the quality of its printed output. Certainly not for its ease of use!
Personally I haven't experienced Lilypond's output as every MuseScore file I export in the .ly format refuses to compile, and I haven't figured out how you import a musicxml file into Lilypond yet.
Regards
Michael
In reply to I was never a Sibelius fan - by ChurchOrganist
Sibelius USED to be horrible compared to Finale, but NOT anymore if you look at the video, it beats EVERYTHING on the market right now!
So, it's something like this: Sibelius is 1st, MuseScore is 2nd, that's how I see it in terms of comparing EVERYTHING these 2 offer.
Just have a look at that video I posted, Sibelius beats everything... And that was version 6, they have version 7 now...
Well, "He who laughs last can laugh best", that's what I know and it applies to MuseScore.
MuseScore can very well implement everything that Sibelius has in a better, omre efficient cross-platform way, just be aware of cross-platform security vulnerabilities and viruses guys!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Viruses
A lot of times it's a matter of words inside the syllable that have to be said on different notes, that is why I would like this to be centered because with the current setting, the whole syllable falls on the first note and there's just a line to suggest a "blurr"-ish kind of pronounciation.
And also, what if you have one syllable streched over 5 notes, what about that example?
How is the performer going to know what the feel of the syllable is going to be if the syllable is only set to show under the first note? The blur line after it doesn't help that much..., that's why I would want a simmetrical display of it, especially when for example it's just 2 eights, it just doesn't LOOK good to the eye which triggers wrong performance a lot of times, I tell you this it HAS happened to me that because notes were not simmetrically displayed on a score I performed something else that was wrong, I would NEVER want that to happen to me again!