12:5 Tuplet
I'm trying to write/notate a 12:5 tuplet. The problem at hand is that MuseScore makes you select one single measure or rest when inserting a tuplet, and I want this 12:5 to be over 2.5 beats (in 4/4). As far as I know there is no way to write a single note or rest so that it covers both the half note and the eight note; if I could accomplish this then I would be able to insert the tuplet I want. Basically I can't figure out how to combine the two beats with the eight note in order to be able to insert the custom tuplet I want over those 2.5 beats. I was wondering if anyone has a solution to this.
Thanks
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You have requested a very tricky tuplet, mostly because it is not normal notation at all. I have attached a file with line by line instructions.
After examining the score the following will make sense.
If your tuplet does not start on the first beat, you will have to split the measure before the tuplet. The tuplet CANNOT cross measure - impossible.
If the Tuplet does not start or end the measure you will need to split the measure before AND after the tuplet.
Once the tuplet is entered, the measure cannot be copied - this is a MuseScore limitation that cannot currently be overcome. You probably will not be able to paste into it, you can't paste into tuplets any way.
In reply to You have requested a very by mike320
Wow, this worked like a charm and the playback is even in time as well. Thank you so much!
Like that?
In reply to Like that? by Ziya Mete Demircan
Did you do that the same way I did?
In reply to Did you do that the same way by mike320
No, see attachment....
I made a measure of 5/8 first.
![12_5_01.png]( "12_5_01.png")
I created the tuplet on it.
![12_5_02.png]( "12_5_02.png")
dialog:
result:
![12_5_03.png]( "12_5_03.png")
adding some notes:
![12_5_04.png]( "12_5_04.png")
Then I deleted 5/8.
![12_5_05.png]( "12_5_05.png")
In reply to No, see attachment.... I made by Ziya Mete Demircan
That is a good way to do it. I forgot to point out that you must use a measure rest to make this tuplet because a tuplet is always used for a single note.
In reply to No, see attachment.... I made by Ziya Mete Demircan
Nice!
Metronome even works correctly on playback.
Regards.
In reply to Did you do that the same way by mike320
It is basicaly the same trick
In reply to It is basicaly the same trick by Jojo-Schmitz
Ziya's method has the undesirable side effect that it may change rhythm layouts (1/4 note could become tied 1/8 notes e.g.) if it is not the last measure entered because everything in that measure or later will become 5/8 temporarily. Local time signatures won't work because you can't remove them once notes are entered.
In reply to Ziya's method has the by mike320
Instead of deleting the time signature, one could cut the tuplet and paste it where need and delete the measure itself. This would allow you to do this in the middle of the piece itself, by inserting a bar, doing it and deleting it later instead of scrolling till the end to find an empty measure
The topic occurred last year:
https://musescore.org/en/node/106601
Is there a need to request this ability as a feature or is it rare enough that the workaround suffices?
In reply to The topic occurred last by underquark
This is very bad notation and should never be done, but I'll tell someone how to do it if they ask.
In reply to The topic occurred last by underquark
In order for the tuplets to be able to be played, it must be a basic point.
Beats are for that: One beat, two beat, half beat(s), etc. (One of these)
I think the above request is for a mechanical or mathematical composition.
If such a notation comes to me, I can't play.
Because I can't count the tuplets on two and a half strokes.
Musescore can do it :)
In reply to In order for the tuplets to by Ziya Mete Demircan
Well said. It's unplayable, but also the rests are in the wrong order. There should be a whole rest at the end and quaver rest before it - then at least you can see immediately how long the tuplet it. (To retract slightly on how I started, Scriabin and similar composers would happily write any number of notes in a tuplet, and to make this humanly playable you could just write a 10-plet over two beats followed by two semiquavers.)