Not sure how to do bar 28.

• Aug 11, 2017 - 19:24

It has a hole note, 2 half notes and 16th notes. I've tried messing with the voices but that doesn't seem to help me. When I do that the final note is tied. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help would be appreciated. If you have any suggestions for any other parts of the music please let me know.


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In reply to by KROSC

In measure 28, the score is written (or transcribed) poorly. The rest in the bass staff should not be there. As suggested above, use two voices in the treble to accommodate the whole and half note. In the bass, only 1 voice is needed and cross staff notation would be used to move the second group of notes to the treble staff. Measure thirty seems to require 2 voices in the bass staff. The transcriber made the initial half rest invisible - which is optional.

In reply to by mike320

Agree. That rest shouldn't be there and the cross-staff-beamed notes might look better with their stems pointing the same way as the Bass staff notes. BTW, what program created whole notes that look different to one another? (the G and the C are a different shape/height and the C looks like it is just a big version of a half-note head). Bar 30 is just odd - where is the 16th note rest? and how do you actually play the bar as written?

In reply to by underquark

I didn't notice how they did that before. in measure 28, it looks like the first 1/2 note is a 1/4 note that is not filled in, it's different than the second one. The whole note G looks to be 1/2 note with no stem. The 1/4 note would allow of the 16th notes on the second beat. Apparently they did this to avoid hiding rests and using only 2 voices?

In reply to by Gy273

In bar 30 treble clef, I would put the top 2 notes on the first beat and all of the 1/4 notes into voice 1. I would put the remaining notes into voice 2. Doing this will turn the 1/2 notes in voice 1 stem up, so click a note and press x to flip the stems.

In the bass clef, I would put a 1/2 rest followed by the f-natural in voice 1 and all of the 16ths into voice 2. I would make the 1/2 rest invisible by pressing v.

I don't know if this is the most efficient way, but... meh. You could use 3 voices, one for the first half note, one for the whole notes, and one for the 16th notes and second half note. Again, I doubt this is the most efficient method, since it requires making some rests invisible, but I don't care.

Is there a way to make it sound fine without the additional voice? I'd say I'm more concerned with how it sounds rather than how it is written. That is, if it seems like a good fit that's all I care about. Thanks for all the help.

In reply to by Gy273

I noticed a few notes changed from the PDF to your score. In measure 12 the bottom whole note should be G rather than an A. In measure 18 you made the bass line have a B-flats on top rather than F's. In measure 21 in the bass, the last notes should be A-flats. In measure 23 the D's in the treble should be D-flats. In measure 27 in the treble, you left out the D on the 3rd beat. In measure 29 in the bass the 6th 16th note should be a G. In measure 31 the first beat should have a G on top rather than an F. In measure 34 in the treble, the last chord should be A-C-A, you have C-E-A. In the bass of measure 34, the top note of the last 1/8th note chord should be F rather than G. In measure 37 you left out several flats (see image).

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There are more mistakes after that, but I decided I would show you how I compare the two scores. As you can see from my screenshot, I have the PDF in my PDF viewer in a full screen window. I also changed the view to show continuous view, rather than a page at a time. When I scroll, there is a gap between each page. I made the MuseScore version take up half the screen as you can see. While comparing the scores I inserted line breaks as needed to make the two scores show the same line of music. They are not totally lined up, but they are close enough to be able to view both at the same time and notice any differences between the two.

When I enter piano scores I always do this because it is very easy to make mistakes otherwise. I still make mistakes, but they are fewer using this method and acting as my own editor is more efficient.

On my windows system, when I move my mouse over a program and spin the scroll wheel, it scrolls without having to click it. The MuseScore version is in page view, so when I get to the bottom of the page I simply hit PgDn to move to the top of the next page. I'm not sure how scrolling works on other systems.

I hope all of this helps you.

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In reply to by mike320

Thanks for pointing out my errors. It sounded fine to me but I'll be sure to look over them all. However, I'm glad you told me. Apparently my work isn't finished. That way you have it set up certainly makes more sense. I just printed it off an do it that way.

In reply to by mike320

mike320...
You wrote: The MuseScore version is in page view, so when I get to the bottom of the page I simply hit PgDn to move to the top of the next page.

Try this...
Use menu item: Edit / Preferences / Canvas, then set Scroll pages to Vertically.
MuseScore will then mouse-scroll pages akin to the pdf reader - no need for PgDn.

This works even when the pdf and mscz files have different page lengths.
So, for easy comparison/transcription, you can set the line breaks in MuseScore to match the line breaks of the pdf (as you already mentioned) and then scroll vertically on both scores - with no care about page breaks.

Regards.

In reply to by Jm6stringer

Thanks for the tip. I normally want the pages to scroll horizontally so I have continuous lines of music across the page with multiple instruments so I keep the scroll as is. I don't do a lot of piano music.

In reply to by mike320

Indeed... I keep my pages set to scroll horizontally - it's more akin to reading sheet music.

So, only to compare with the pdf posted in this thread, did I change the scroll to vertical.
Then I forgot to put it back. :-(
If it were easier to access, I'd probably use it more. :-)

(Hmmm... I recall someone posting that it should be up on the menu bar near page view. There it would be easier to toggle.)

Regards.

Perhaps it is now complete. Minus of course the dynamics and whatnot. If not please let me know. I've checked it over and it seems fine this time. Of course, feel free to use it as you see fit.

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