mesasure stretch doesn't "stick"

• Dec 6, 2017 - 13:56

Hello again
As part of the study exercises, I've tried to get a standardized measure length so that comparable measures align vertically when you compare 2 sets of piano staves (2 pairs, 4 staves--2 treble, 2 bass). These are exercises, not a piece score requiring measure variablity.

I shorten and lengthen measure length in Measure Properties layout stretch, then I reset each of the 6 when all the other measures lengths change and misalign. After 4-5 resets up and down the line I can get approximate vertical alignments between staves, but not as good as a fixed setting would be. i sure would love the equivalent of a "fixed font" for measure length.

Thank you


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In reply to by Jm6stringer

I tried this on a test piece to set 4-measures-per-line score, but Musescore didn't apply breaks consistently. It broke one line into 2 measures each. I've noticed every now and then Musescore channels "Cats":
For he will do as he did, do
And there's no doing anything about it!

In reply to by mmserp

Not clear from your file what problem you are perceving - I see two line break, and the lines in question do indeed end right at those breaks. I don't see any lines with only two measures.

Anyhow, line breaks are commands to end a line prematurely at a particular place, just as they are in a word processor. But also just as in a word processor, there is no single command to force more to fit on a line than otherwise would given your current settings. If you want more to fit on a line than would fit given your current settings, you need to change your settings. Either the overall staff space size via Layout / Page Settings, or the default music spacing (Style / General / Measure) or the measure-by-measure override (Layout / Decrease Stretch).

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I didn't attach the test piece where Musescore split a 4-measure line into 2 measures. I tried that after posting.

I'm not aiming to cram a line, I have measures that fit (4--6). I rather they span equally no matter the difference in note durations. This is an exercise series. For example, 7th chord in top 2 piano staves (1 in treble, matching 1 in the bass line), and 2d pair of staves below arpeggiates the same chords for comparison. 4-6 measures fit easily per line, but aligning them -- close but not exact.

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In reply to by mmserp

I'm still not seeing a line with only two measures? Anyhow, my guess is you increased stretch in one of the measures to cause it to be too big, or else the content of the measures is just too much to fit a third measure. Could say for sure if you posted the file.

As for alignment between the block chords and arpeggios, the easy way to get that would to not have this as two separate systems but instead one big four-staff system. Align measures between different systems is not standard practice, but if you want that non-standard effect, just keep playing with stretch.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

i deleted the test file where Musescore didn't break consistently--had no reason to keep it.. All lines had more than 2 measures each before my test.

The 2d posted piece didn't have any stretch other than inserted line breaks. I had tried stretch without much success because the other measures in the line wouldn't stay set. Alignment would have made the exercises a bit easier to compare for study. Not sure where you set a system to have 4 staves?

In reply to by mmserp

You can add as many staves as you want to your score, just go to Edit / Instruments. You can either add new instruments of one staff each, or add more staves to your existing instrument. Again, having all staves be part of the same system this is definitely the way to get alignment for free right out of the box. Otherwise, if you want different systems to have measures align, you will need to play with stretch and eyeball it.

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