Copying voice gets transposed
I've just found a version of a song on musescore, where I I wish to add the voice part to my mandolin part (which has both notation and TAB - though I don't think that's relevant). The new score needed to be transposed by a minor third to match my existing one.
I then added a new stave for the voice part, standar treble clef. When I then select the bars from the downloaded score and paste them into my score, they are an octave lower, and need transposing an octave higher to match again.
Any reason why this should happen and is there any way to "past and match pitch"?
And where did CMD-Z for undo go??
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Which version/score on musescore.com ? (the link please?)
Here, I download this score randomly for mandolin (and Tab). After adding a new staff (voice), and copy-paste, I received the expected result: 1-jazz_exercises_mandolin.mscz
Maybe the user had changed the default clef for mandolin (ie treble clef) to the treble clef-8vb (with the little 8 under the clef)? This could explain what you notice?
In reply to Which version on musescore… by cadiz1
OK - thanks.
The downloaded score was this brown eyed girl https://musescore.com/user/4099721/scores/4272291
My version (not finished) is attached
Brown Eyed Girl intor GJ transcription.mscz
In reply to OK - thanks… by sportsnapper
Ok so, in an unexpected way, the mentioned score for voice shows the treble clef 8-vb.
And funny, with a trumpet sound! :)
So, begin to change this clef (and then select all -> Ctlr + Up), like this: 1-Brown-Eyed_Girl_-_lead_sheet.mscz
And now it will match with the mandolin clef.
In reply to Ok. by cadiz1
Thanks - I thought that's what I had done - I've attached my intermediate version for interest. The original was for trumpet. I've just looked at yours and it now appears to be in E Maj rather than the G Maj I was aiming for.
It's proably not worth taking any more time over - I just wondered if there was an obvious reason when I take a bar from my intermediate file (the one attached here) it transposed down by an octave.
In reply to Thanks - I thought that's… by sportsnapper
And so, with the good clef (used for mandolin) and transposed in G.
1G transposed-Brown-Eyed_Girl_-_lead_sheet-1.mscz
"I just wondered if there was an obvious reason when I take a bar from my intermediate file it transposed down by an octave"
As explained, the clef (treble 8vb) of the downloaded score did not match with the mandolin clef (treble clef)
In reply to Ok. by cadiz1
It was probably written for a Tenor voice and the 8-vb is not an unusual clef for Tenor voice.
In reply to It was probably written for… by mike320
Instrument change Tenor to Voice, the treble 8vb remains (in instruments dialog too)
![voice.jpg]( "voice.jpg")
On the original file (website):
You will need to upload the original score for us to understand what is happening with the transposition.
As far as CMD-Z is concerned, you can define that in the edit->preferences...->shortcuts tab. I'm not sure why MuseScore didn't define this but it's there for you to define yourself.
In reply to You will need to upload the… by mike320
Ah -thanks - that will save me lots of time!
In reply to You will need to upload the… by mike320
There is a known bug where if you reset your shortcuts to default, the OS-level shortcuts like this (also for print, save, etc) get temporarily cleared. They are fixed if you close and restart MuseScore. See #65011: Reset All Preferences to Default removes essential keyboard shortcuts; fixed on restart