Problem with changing voice 1 to voice 2

• Feb 19, 2018 - 12:24

When I change some notes från voice 1 to voice 2, all notes are changed, but those which are connected with bows.

Look in my picture. All the green ones was changed from voice 1, but those black ones in the middle won't change.

How can I do it without deleting the bow, change, and then add a bow again?
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You cannot change tied (you called it bowed) notes to a different voice. To change those notes to another voice you must use Edit->Voices->Exchange voices... (... is the voices you want to exchange) from the menu. This only works on complete measures. This means it would be perfect in your example, but would cause a problem if you had another tied note in the measure you did not want in another voice. You would then have to delete one and reenter it.

In reply to by mike320

Thanks! That worked. I had not tried that since I thought it would do the same ...

If one just want to change two tied notes (I did not know what is was called) I just have to delete one tie, so it's not a very big deal.

Worse with 100 (two-rowed) measures of the music in the example.

But it sure would be nice to be able to change two tied notes to another voice without having to untie them.

In reply to by Nummerskivan

Since I'm not a programmer, I don't know the details of changing ties to voice 2. I do know that some complications arise when a note is tied to a note in a different voice, which is possible. I suppose the programmers could special case tied notes to look at all of the possibilities of different tied note combinations. One limitation with changing voices is that only notes have voices changed when you use ctrl+alt+# or click a number on the toolbar. Even though some other items (like ties) can be put in other voices, on notes can be changed.

Do: menu "Edit" -> Voices -> exchange voice-1-voice2 (and not by trying this via the voices selector in the toolbar)

In general, there are lots of complications with changing voices of notes already entered. Not sure how you got into a situation where you had 100's of these to correct, but to be clear: it is much better to enter the music into the correct voice in the first place. If you attach your score and describe how it got into this state and how you are trying to change it, we can try to help better. if it's the result of import from another format, that is probably mostly unavoidable, but if you attach the file you imported from, that could help us advise you better as well.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I had an old 15th century SATB score of 100 measures that I have written from paper into MS. I have changed it from SATB, to church organ solo, to flute with church organ, to no pedal keyboard instrument with solo instrument and so on. Every change made me need to move the voices, and also change some from 1 to 2 or vice versa.

The first answer was the solution for avoiding a lot of lost tied notes.

In reply to by Nummerskivan

Exchanging voices, using explode and the filter selector are the 3 features that will make these types of transcriptions easiest. Learning how to use the three features will enable you to decide which you think will be easiest for each step you have described. Here are links to the 3 features on line:

https://musescore.org/en/handbook/voices
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/tools#explode
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/copy-and-paste#selection-filter

If you have downloaded the manual in PDF it is easier to search for features you may not be familiar with. Use the link on the main handbook page to get the latest PDF version of the handbook.

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