Deleting bars alters pitch of notes

• Feb 8, 2019 - 10:30

I used to use ctrl+del to delete selected bars in MuseScore 2 (I have a Windows-based PC). In MuseScore 3, this deletes the selected bars, but also changes the clefs and hence the note pitch (standard G-clef and tenor G-clef all change to octave above standard G-clef).

I have also tried selecting the bars I wish to delete, then using Edit -> Del, but this does not remove the bars.

I cannot work out how to delete bars whilst retaining everything else in my score unchanged.

Help would be greatly appreciated!


In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Hi Jojo,

The score is attached - it's the baseline score (not the one I'm arranging).

I'm trying to delete the first 4 bars.

I select the four bars (using click - shift - click to select the bars, thereby getting the blue box around the bars), then try to delete. When I press Ctrl+Del, the bars delete, but the clefs and pitch change. When I use Edit -> Del, nothing happens. Ditto for Alt+Del. I can't locate another solution.

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In reply to by Ziya Mete Demircan

Hm, ok. Interesting.

I transposed it to G maj because a piece I am transcribing some elements from is in G (the original is in C). It's a bit confusing, as it is not immediately apparent what is causing the problem.

The top part, for example, is completely within the tenor recorder's range, yet most of the notes are red, indicating they are out of range. MuseScore appears to be assuming that I meant descant recorder (there is no ability to state what type of recorder one is setting for).

I guess this means that, when setting for recorders, one must deliberately choose the instrument desired, and choose the clef accordingly.

We recorder players are used to swapping instruments in any case - F or C recorder (depending on range of notes), or tenor - descant or alto - sopranino (depending on what tessitura one wants). So we don't particularly worry about whether a clef is standard, octave above, or octave below.

Thanks for identifying the problem - much appreciated.

In reply to by CMHdeV

Musescore software makes various adjustments to ensure that both the play correct note (in software) and the player's readings (in score) are understood correctly.
Of course, you can ignore all of this and just focus on writing notes (most of the time I'm doing this).
In some rare cases (such as deleting the first measure), we may encounter unexpected conditions for the user, as the software assumes normal.
If the first score you attached is set for optimal reading: After deleting the first measure, just change the clef.
You can also cancel the displaying of notes other than the sound range in different colors to avoid visual pollution/discomfort: Edit=> Preferences=> Note Input tab: untick "Color notes outside of..."
(see demo gif)

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