typing 7 doesn't change measure rest to whole rest in 4/4
Reported version
3.0
Type
Functional
Frequency
Once
Severity
S3 - Major
Reproducibility
Always
Status
by design
Regression
No
Workaround
No
Project
(1) In 4/4 time,
(2) click on a measure rest,
(3) type 7,
(4) then type G.
I get a G quarter note, not a G whole note.
Yes, I could type 6 then 7 then G. I've been trying to develop that habit for almost a year now and it still bothers me, so I'm posting it here.
Comments
To enter a note other than a quarter note, you must be in note input mode (Press n). You are not the first to mention this and it may be fixed in the future, but it is currently by design.
I figured. Actually, you can type 1 through 6 (i.e. any duration shorter than the measure) and this changes the measure rest to a rest of that duration on the downbeat. You have to choose a duration anyway, so why bother to enter Note Input Mode if it just adds a step?
I had assumed durations that are too long (i.e. 8+) would be nonfunctional (Sibelius 6 behavior) but never tried it; lo and behold, this changes the measure rest to a whole rest and you can then enter a whole note! So all the lesser and greater numbers are functional here but not the equal number! And both the equal and the greater numbers spit out something other than what they are supposed to. Surely this is worth fixing?
Is this really a bug?
Typing 4 creates a quarter-beat rest, 5 a whole beat, 6 two beats.
Typing 7 creates a 4-beat rest which is what you would expect.
If you want a whole-measure rest then you select the measure and delete everything, and this works for time signatures ither than 4/4.
In reply to Is this really a bug? Typing… by underquark
That's all correct but it's not what I'm talking about. When you select a "whole-measure rest" in 4/4 and type 7, this does not create a "4-beat rest." I laid out above why I think this is unideal.
In reply to That's all correct but it's… by kacattac
Since it's already in the same duration (full measure), no need to change. If you really want to change: press "0", after "7".
Also: When you press 6 in the "2/4" time signature, the full-measure-rest doesn't change. Because of it's already in the same duration (full measure). You need to press "0" after "6".
In reply to Since it's already in the… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Yes, I really want to change it ...so that I can enter a G whole note. Both the 0 and n keys are extra steps that are not necessary with any other duration, as I laid out above.
In reply to Yes, I really want to change… by kacattac
then; press the "n" key first.
Click on a full-rest, or in a measure, or on a note, or on a some rest.
n, 7, g
I think it is unideal that this is a three-step process only for the note value equal to the duration of the bar. For all shorter note values it is a two-step process:
1, g
2, g
3, g
4, g
5, g
None of these require being preceded by n.
Oddly, there are some two-step options for whole notes, but they don't involve 7! Both
8, g
and
9, g
yield a whole note! (in 4/4) But they also obliterate anything that has already been entered in the next measure.
I am failing to understand what is gained by making 7 nonfunctional "by design" in this scenario.
In reply to I think it is unideal that… by kacattac
In the current situation (Not to defend, just to understand what it is):
Full measure rest is equal to the time-signature. eg: 4 x quarter = whole note
And the numeric-key is used to enter the same duration value is not functional in this case.
(eg: in 4/4; whole note = Full measure rest = 7)
The keys 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9 are also non-functional in other time-signatures. (key 5 is always active = default duration)
Pls. Test the attached score.
Hopefully one day this will be changed as well.
In reply to In the current situation … by Ziya Mete Demircan
Thanks for posting that. Yes, this demonstrates the problem well.