hide empty staves
please help. for some reason my hide empty staves box, even when checked, does not apply. doesn't work. I am just trying to hide the voices during a long piano introduction. I can not make the hide empty work.
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Please share the score
In reply to Please share the score by Jojo-Schmitz
I will try...
Or share at least the start of it. If MuseScore isn't hiding those staves, it is because it for some reason thinks they're not actually empty (this includes having invisible markings/notes).
Attaching (part of) the score will allow us to tell you why that is so.
I am encountering the same problem. I have fiddled with Format - Style - Score and the Staff Properties - Hide when empty switches, but to no avail. How would one determine if there are hidden elements in the staff?
In reply to I am encountering the same… by node999
Same reply: attach your score
The plan was to switch off some parts belonging to Mandolin 1 by placing them in another instrument (Mandolin 2) and making that instrument invisible. I did the same with VIolin 1 and VIolin 2.
In reply to The plan was to switch off… by node999
Staff properties is set to Always hide when empty rather than Automatic for all staves but one. Some instruments have been made invisible.
In reply to Staff properties is set to… by Jojo-Schmitz
I want to use only the first line of the Intro and to eliminate the Outro. But Mandolin 1 in the parts I have removed remains visible even though the staves are empty. Violin 1 and Bass Guitar, on the other hand, are invisible, as intended.
In reply to I want to use only the first… by node999
Mandolin 1 is the top most visible one, if all others are either invisíble or empty, what should MuseScore show then?
In reply to Which parts, that score… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you for your efforts. I know it must be confusing. The attached PDF is 4 pages and includes 4 parts. Mandolin 1 and Violin 1 play the Intro. The empty lines of Mandolin 1 should not be visible (set to Hide when empty). I want to make the Outro invisible. However, empty Mandolin 1 lines are still visible, along with the System text. The result should be 2 pages only, including a one line Intro, the Verse and the Break. No Outro.
Since Mandolin 1 is set to Hide when empty, should the empty lines not be invisible? Or is there something I don't understand? Much obliged for your attention.
In reply to Thank you for your efforts… by node999
What should be shown in place of that empty Mandolin?
If nothing, just remove those measures
Or use multi measure rests
In reply to What should be shown in… by Jojo-Schmitz
Nothing should show. However, if I remove the measures, won't that delete the corresponding lines of the other instruments? I want to be able to turn them back on later.
In reply to Nothing should show. However… by node999
Yes, it would delete those too. You can't show just nothing.
In reply to Nothing should show. However… by node999
Later when?
If later meaning, after having entered notes. Then do that and layout will fix itself. The current situation only exists because there isn't a single staff with notes. So MuseScore still shows you the top most staff to indicate that the score/time is still advancing then.
In reply to Later when? If later meaning… by jeetee
Later meaning when I want to perform a longer version of the song, with more instrumental.
Should I assume that the violin 1 lines remain invisible because they are not in the topmost staff?
In that case, I think that the more appropriate method of achieving my goal would have been to define a new system (i.e., section) with a system title. But can an entire system be made invisible?
In reply to Later meaning when I want to… by node999
I'm still very much confused about your end goal:
Option one: at some point in the future you'll add music to a different staff of that system. Doing so will end up then showing that staff (because no longer empty) and hiding the mandolin staff (because the system is no longer empty).
Now what is still the issue?
Option two: For some reason after having entered music you're still left with an entirely empty system. MuseScore will automatically still show the first staff so your musicians will now how many measures to wait. But for some reason you don't wish to show anything there.
Counterquestion: Then why still have a system there?
Why not simply remove those measures at all? What is now still the issue?
In reply to I'm still very much confused… by jeetee
The goal is to have a short version and a long version in one score. The long version exists, with a page long intro and a page long outro. To create a short version, I want to make the outro completely invisible and make all but the first line of the intro invisible. I tried to accomplish this by making 2nd instruments and moving unwanted parts to those instruments, which are set to not visible. However, this still left empty staves in the Intro and Outro for the Mandolin 1 part. These staves are still visible despite the fact that the Mandolin 1 part is set to Hide when empty.
I suppose the only solution is to make a separate score.
In reply to The goal is to have a short… by node999
Thank you for your advice and observations.
In reply to The goal is to have a short… by node999
Okay.. so the thing tripping up MuseScore here is that you wish to combine two different length versions of the same song into a single score. Whilst a score by definition has the same amount of measures for all instruments.
First option: Use two scores.
Second option: Use a single master score, include the mandolin part twice. On the first mandolin you only add the intro notes, on the 2nd the full score.
Then create two specific parts. The first one contains all instruments except that first mandolin.
The 2nd part contains only the first mandolin. It'll have multimeasure rests enabled by default, reducing the remainder of the score to one single measure.
In reply to Okay.. so the thing tripping… by jeetee
THanks for your very detailed advice. I have since gone to your first option, but will try to get up to speed on the second option for future reference.