Turn of Chord play
Hi just installed update to release candidate 3.5.0.12799
when playing the melody line single note its playing a chord behind, how to i turn this off.
i have been thro settings preferences etc?
Hi just installed update to release candidate 3.5.0.12799
when playing the melody line single note its playing a chord behind, how to i turn this off.
i have been thro settings preferences etc?
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Two ways
The 3rd way via preferences, as available in 3.5 Beta, had been removed for RC and the 4th way, via score settings, did not yet made it into RC, and, if at all, might make it into 3.5.1, see #302714: Chord symbol playback: make global settings available in Edit Style dialog.
Yet another way, disabling it for existing pre 3.5 scores, is still being discussed, see https://musescore.org/en/node/307961
In reply to Two ways mute the chord… by Jojo-Schmitz
inspector is blank when i open, nothing to turn on or off
in the mixer no chords symbols options show
In reply to inspector is blank when i… by beanroti
In reply to Select a Chord symbol, then… by Jojo-Schmitz
It looks like you have to select every chord in each bar/measure for each insdtrument, ouch sometimes 20 instruments and many chords in the bar, X by 200 compositions serious headach.
Without sounding rude, why is this even there, it was perfect before,
One option is to remove the chord symbols for each instrument, but i always have chord symbols above, for horns bass etc it shows how each note relates to the harmony chords,
In reply to It looks like you have to… by beanroti
Again: select one chord, in Inspector disable "Play" and then use the "Set to style" button. 2 clicks for one, 3 clicks for all, can't get much easier
In reply to Again: select one chord, in… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for this. I note chord names in everything, just for context, and turning hem off like this is awesome ("set as style" solution in Inspector)
In reply to Thanks for this. I note… by Gregg Oliver
Since this was originally discussed there have been improvements made to chord playback to make it easier to turn on and off. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/playback-chord-symbols-nashville-numb… for full instructions on playback of chord symbols.
In reply to Again: select one chord, in… by Jojo-Schmitz
It works wonderfully for me, Thank you for the advice!
In reply to It looks like you have to… by beanroti
As mentioned, the set as style buttion is the key here - it is what enables you to take a setting form one element and automatically apply it to all others. So this takes just seconds.
As for why the feature is there, it is because countless users have begged for it over the years. It's something many people have waited a long time for and are really looking forward to.
In reply to As mentioned, the set as… by Marc Sabatella
Hello really sorry to sound so thick, i select a chord symbol open inspector and unchecked play,
but i dont get how to select set as style button apply it to all others.????????
i have tried repeatedly, to you it is obvious, Regards
In reply to Hello really sorry to sound… by beanroti
It is that "S" button to the far right of the "Play" tickbox and label, next to the reset button. You may need to make the inspector wider or scroll sideways to see it
In reply to It is that "S" button right… by Jojo-Schmitz
Success thank you Jojo & Marc i could not see S until expanding inspector,
i understand why some would want that,
In reply to Success thank you Jojo &… by beanroti
I made a start in documenting it, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/chord-symbols#playback
Not much, but at least a start ;-)
In reply to It is that "S" button right… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for this.
I had the same problem and solved it with the info you provided.
Easy enough, when you know how. Not my idea of intuitive. I could see the idea of selecting one chord and setting a new style after unchecking Play. The button for the style is an S ... lurking there as if it wasn't important.
In reply to Thanks for this. I had the… by rpjazzguitar
For the record, though, this button is not new, it’s been the standard way of making style changes to scores ever since 3.0 first came out. For instance, changing a font or position of chord symbols globally, etc. - these are all done via the style button in the Inspector. But indeed, probably a better icon could have been chosen back when this was all implemented a few years back. The Inspector is being redesigned pretty completely for MuseScore 4, FWIW.
In reply to For the record, though, this… by Marc Sabatella
It may not be new, but I'm new to it. One of the things I like about Musescore is that most things are intuitive. I can usually figure out how to do things without, heaven forbid, looking anything up or watching a video.
This was an exception.
In reply to It is that "S" button right… by Jojo-Schmitz
Didn't know this... Lifesaver. Thank you!
In reply to It is that "S" button right… by Jojo-Schmitz
Didn't know this... Lifesaver. Thank you!
In reply to Didn't know this… by G-Power
Excuse me. I didn't want to post this here, but that's that... Can't delete message.
Very strange that it posted in the wrong place lol ?
Sorry again...
In reply to As mentioned, the set as… by Marc Sabatella
I wonder, and I'm not sure if it's easy to implement: Wouldn't it be more user friendly with a button in the playback toolbar to toggle of/toggle on the chord symbols playback for a particular score?
In reply to I wonder, and I'm not sure… by kuwitt
An issue is that originally there were too many places to control playback of chord symbols, leading to cases where the same score would playback differently for different people depending on these settings. So we deliberately simplified things to make sure the only options were per-score, to guarantee playback is the same for everyone for the same score. The other playback-related toolbar toggles are hooked up to program preferences, and that might be confusing. But other than that, it could certainly be OK. And certainly the redesign of all the playback-related UI for MuseScore 4 could consider things like this.
In reply to An issue is that originally… by Marc Sabatella
Perhaps it is worth keeping an eye on this for further development. My thought here was to have easily a way to turn it on or of and to save this setting via Synthesizer->Save to score.
In reply to Perhaps it is worth keeping… by kuwitt
There probably will be a better exposed style setting, see #302714: Chord symbol playback: make global settings available in Edit Style dialog
In reply to There probably will be a … by Jojo-Schmitz
Also a possible good solution. The advantage with a toolbar button I sea, I can easily switch between turning of and on the chord symbols playback. For example to play around with the harmonization/chord progression meanwhile hear how it sounds, but in result to notate the chord pattern myself.
In reply to Also a possible good… by kuwitt
OK, then maybe as a temporary override, not stored with the score nor as a preference, similar to the Play pannel's Tempo
In reply to OK, then maybe as a… by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes, this was discussed also, and again the issue would be consistency with other toolbar buttons, but it's not an unsolvable problem.
In reply to I wonder, and I'm not sure… by kuwitt
Yes! That would be nice! Having a button somewhere to turn it on/off.....
In reply to It looks like you have to… by beanroti
(Now the chords will not be audible. Remember to reverse the above and re-click the box so that you can hear the chords again when you wish!)
In reply to In your score, right-click… by Julia McKenzie
@Julia McKenzie... You wrote:
4. Click on "View" (which is the third listed item)
You should edit it to read:
4. Click on "Inspector" (which is the third listed item)
Your 5 steps do work, however...
The best way is still found here:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/playback-chord-symbols-nashville-nu…
especially this part:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/playback-chord-symbols-nashville-nu…
In reply to @Julia McKenzie... You wrote… by Jm6stringer
Thanks so much for noticing the mistake in my hastily typed post! I've corrected it now. And thanks for the links to the best ways to mute the changes :) -jmck
In reply to Select a Chord symbol, then… by Jojo-Schmitz
Open the mixer and 'unfold' the available channels, that → icon
thank You ... best idea !!!!!
Version: 3.5.0.13199
This is what I did:
Select 'View' (top left). Tick 'Inspector' from the drop down.
A screen opens up with 'Element', 'Text' and 'Chord Symbol'. (on the right)
Open up the 'Chord Symbol' drop down.
To the right of that is like a cross inside a curly arrow. Ignore that. Then an 'S'. Hover over that and it says 'Set as style'
And that stopped all the chords from playing (for me anyway).
In reply to Version: 3.5.0.13199 This is… by wje200
Whist is one of the meanwhile documented methods, see https://musescore.org/en/faq#faq-308797 and https://musescore.org/en/handbook/playback-chord-symbols-nashville-numb…
I'm not a huge fan of this feature, but I can see the appeal. Thanks for the tips in this thread on how to mute playback. But I have another issue with this that I'm having trouble figuring out.
I frequently export parts as MIDI files to load into Logic, and I'm finding now that these chords are coming along for the ride, making the MIDI files utterly useless! Having to go through and manually delete the chord notes in Logic is not feasible. Turning off playback with the suggestions above is not stopping the chords from showing up in the MIDI export.
Is there an option to exclude the chords from the MIDI export? And why are they even in there? This does NOT seem to me like a feature anyone would want, even if they do want chord playback in the editor.
In reply to I'm not a huge fan of this… by room34
Disabling chord playback should prevent th from being part of the midi export, if not that'd be a bug
In reply to I'm not a huge fan of this… by room34
I did find a workaround I can use until this is fixed (as I definitely do see it as a bug): if I open the exported MIDI file back up in MuseScore, it has the actual instrument line and the chords (as piano) as separate instruments. I can delete the piano instrument part, and then re-export what's left as a new MIDI file.
In reply to I'm not a huge fan of this… by room34
Thanks for #311415: Chords from chord symbols appear in MIDI exports even when chord playback is off and chord channels are muted in Mixer
But we can't reproduce
In reply to Thanks for #311415: Chords… by Jojo-Schmitz
I clicked play off in the inspector and still get the chord playback.
In reply to I clicked play off in the… by paulmusso6
In the Inspector, to the far right of 'Play', click the 'Set as style' button.
In reply to I clicked play off in the… by paulmusso6
Hi Paul! To clarify, the play checkbox in the Inspector affects only the selected chord(s). But then you can click the Set as style ("S" icon) and it applies to all chord symbols in that score.
The chord playback is already disabled for older scores. if you'd like to disable it for new scores to by default, go to Edit / Preferences / Advanced and check "score/harmony/play/disableNew". Then you would be able to enable it for a given score using the Inspector in the same way you currently disable it.
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