Notenbild bei Stimmtausch ist gruselig / voice change leads to bad format
Reported version
3.5
Type
Functional
Frequency
Once
Severity
S4 - Minor
Reproducibility
Always
Status
by design
Regression
No
Workaround
No
Project
Takte [A] und [B] markieren, Werkzeuge/Stimmen/Stimmen 1 und 2 tauschen. Das Notenbild ist anschließend in der Nähe von unbrauchbar und die Takte habe sich (unnötigerweise) verschoben / mark tacets [A] and [B] , tools/voices(?)/change voices 1 and 2. The sheet looks very bad after and tacets are shifted
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Comments
Tacets ? I guess you mean measures (Takte)
The shifting is due to the notes that used to be stacked nicely are now next to one another to avoid collisions, and so need more space, that is basically unavoidable.
What might avoidable is the look of the slurs and ties, those could maybe flip.
That, plus a slightly smalls space setting and some less stretch and it looks much better:
This is the way voices work. When you have notes in voice 1 and voice 2 all voice 1 stems will point up and voice 2 stems will point down unless you change them. Also voice 3 stems point up and voice 4 stems point down if you use more voices.
Yes, I agree, this is by Design and basically unavoidable, except maybe for the tie directions
I agree the ties could be handled better. With the big redesign that will affect ties and slurs happening in version 4 I'm content to see how that looks before we open a new bug report.
In reply to I agree the ties could be… by mike320
Hi Mike, Jojo,
thanks for clarification. I can tell you, what I wanted, what I did and why I was unhappy. Maybe there is a better way to achieve the result.
The lower line is the original melody and I wanted to add the melody transposed up a 5th (Quinte). I copied the melody into an an empty sheet, transposed it a 5th and copied this. In the original sheet it switched to 2nd voice and pasted the transposed line. This looked fine, but for whatever reasons the pasted line became voice #1 and the original line became voice #2. From an optical point, no problem, from functionality it is a little problem. If I want to get rid of the second voice, I could select the 2nd voice and delete this. This is not possible now.
To get a better understanding: is voice#1 (like) soprano, #2 alto, #3 tenor, #4 bass? Is it a good guess to always work with voice #2 or #3 so that additional parallel melodies can be added easily?
For me it's OK when you close this.
The selection filter (F6) allows you to select everything in a voice and modify it or delete it as you like. If you ever want to delete voice 1 keep in mind that nearly everything that isn't a note is in voice 1 so you will want to be careful. Also, voice 1 rests can't be deleted.
In reply to The selection filter (F6)… by mike320
Hi Mike,
just found another much more easy way to achive my target. I took the sheet with one voice only, marked all notes and pressed Alt-5, the command for adding a fifth on top of every note.
BR, Stephan