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I have a score with two repeated sections. The second part has two endings. In order for it to work the writer used a DC al Fine at the end of the second ending and put the Fine at the end of the first ending. It used to work on an older version of Musescore but it no longer works. It will repeat and then skip the Fine and end at the end of the second ending where the DC al Fine is. I've tried reworking it several ways, using DS al Fine and the appropriate Segno added, but it still does not work. I've included the DC and the DS versions for your perusal. Is there a way to make this work? Much appreciate your help.
Regards
Gerri
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Comments
Click on D.C., via Inspector tick "Play Repeats"
In reply to Click on D.C., via Inspector… by Shoichi
Checking.
In reply to Click on D.C., via Inspector… by Shoichi
I found the "play repeats" box and clicked on it. Still not working. It jumps the Fine and ends at the end of the second ending. :-(
In reply to Still not working. It jumps… by Gerri Hynes
Of course, the Fine is in the 1st repeat/volta. If you don't play repeats, it isn't seen, as then only the 2nd round is taken. If you do play repeats it isn't seen in the 2nd round either
In reply to Of course, the Fine is in… by Jojo-Schmitz
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I need it to play the first section twice, then the second part twice with the second ending the second time through. Then it's supposed to go back to the top and play everything once until it comes to the FINE. It's not doing that. It's skipping the first ending (second time around) and ending at the end of the second ending. This is not how it's supposed to work. It used to do it with Musescore 2 so I know it can do it. I just don't know why it's not doing it with M3 or now M3.6.
In reply to I don't think you're… by Gerri Hynes
MuseScore 2 surely could not do this, it didn't have the 'play repeats' for jumps at all, so played them only once (anf the 2nd volta) so would not have seen the Fine either
Hmm, actually it does work, as you've been told, check attached
In reply to MuseScore 2 surely could not… by Jojo-Schmitz
Yeah it did. Our group stayed with M2 for a long time after M3 came out. This piece is one of our oldest and it used to play just fine. Not any more.
In reply to Yeah it did. Our group… by Gerri Hynes
Ah, right, 2.3.2 does have "Play repeats" too. Not all 2.x had though
It does play in 3.x too though, the very same way
In reply to Ah, right, 2.3.2 does have … by Jojo-Schmitz
:-) Thanks. Yes, you are correct.
Please take me through your expected playback order; checking "play repeats" for the D.C. definitely makes playback stop at the Fine for me in 3.6.0.
The resulting playback order = A A B1 B2 A A B1
In reply to Please take me through your… by jeetee
It used to play AA, B1 B1 B2, A B1. Right now it's playing AA, B1 B2, A, B2 ending on B2. This is using the DC version. When I clicked on the "play repeats" using the DS version, I'm now getting the same as you. with AA being played the second time during the "fine" part. I can live with that but it's still a mystery why it's not following the usual "Fine" format. If that's the best it can do now, then we can make do with that I guess. It's definitely an improvement.
In reply to It used to play AA, B1 B1 B2… by Gerri Hynes
Just so I'm explaining myself clearly, when using a FINE with Da Capo's in an orchestral arrangement, the second time through, the repeats are not played. So the fact that Musescore is playing the A part twice during the second time is an error. This is not one of our orchestra pieces, obviously, so we can live with it, but it may present problems with orchestral set ups.
In reply to Just so I'm explaining… by Gerri Hynes
To be clear, not taking repeats is the default after a jump indeed (so then A is played only once). That A is played twice when you turn on "play repeats" is not a bug, but exactly what that option does; usually the jump text in the score is then changed to "D.C. al Fine con rep." to indicate so. That is not a bug.
What is also normal is that indeed after a Jump only the last repeat is played again. Your problem is that for your B-part, the last repeat is B2 and not B1; as such the "Fine" in B1 is unreachable after the jump.
Now knowing all that, there is a way to make your score work as you want it; by making sure that your first volta also is the last one and perceived as the "last repeat".
(1) Change the repeatlist for that volta to 1,3
(2) Change the play count of the end measure of that volta from "2" to "3"
In reply to To be clear, not taking… by jeetee
That is immensely helpful, thank you. Your version works perfectly. Much appreciated. I can see the 'repeat list' with the 1,3, but I'm not sure where to find the 'play count'? can you direct me to that setting please? Thanks! I'd like to know how to make these adjustments for next time.
In reply to That is immensely helpful,… by Gerri Hynes
It is found in the Measure Properties of the measure that ends with the corresponding end repeat symbol: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/measure-operations#properties
In reply to It is found in the Measure… by jeetee
Thank you so much! Got it.