Uneven, stretched out spacing between beamed notes (score attached)
I've been preparing a new edition of Scarlatti K.141 piano sonata. Please see attached score. In measure 60 and 64, and similar spots, Musescore is spacing strangely. There are two voices in the RH (treble clef), and the second 16th is way too far to the right, and the LH (bass clef) part looks very strange because of the stretched-out spacing.
The documentation says you can nudge notes and change the width of bars by various methods, but none of them seem to work. Have you run into this and figured out a solution? Thanks
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In measure 56 both hands too
Something very similar had come up a few days ago, with no explanation as to why this is happening though
Here Chord offset seems the workaround, at least for those in bass clef, and segment offset in treble clef
In reply to In measure 56 RH too… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks! Can you work me through the steps of what you did, so I know how it works? I don't know what 'chord offset' is.
Everything you did looks good, but measure 60 only seems to be a little wider than the other measures of that particular line. Is there a way to adjust the measure size for that as well?
In reply to Thanks! Can you work me… by LuKeyz
Select those notes and see what the Inspector says about them, where it deviates from the default settings
In reply to Select those notes andf see… by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok. Thanks. How do you adjust measure 60 to the same size as the rest of the measures in that line? The measure sizes of 64-68 are very close to equal and look nice. But, measure 60 is wider than the others in measure 59-63.
In reply to Ok. Thanks. How do you… by LuKeyz
It is wider due to that 2 notes being a second appart
In reply to It is wider due to that 2… by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok. I tried decreasing the layout stretch so that there would be 6 measures per line. Please see attached score to see this change. So with that adjustment, If you look at measure 56 and 60, both have voices that are a 2nd apart, but 60 is still noticeably wider.
In reply to Ok. I tried decreasing the… by LuKeyz
I suspect it's the ledger lines on the notes a second part compounding this issue.
I definitely remember this same question about this same score a few days ago, but I don't see any other posts from you here, so either it was under a different account or in a different venue, like maybe Facebook?
Anyhow, I'm not actually sure where the extra space comes from, but to me the best way to eliminate it is via negative "Leading space" on the next note. Adjusting offset will move it out of alignment with other notes in other voices or on other staves, plus it doesn't truly close up the space as far as width calculations go.
In reply to I definitely remember this… by Marc Sabatella
It was a different user, but the same score? It was here in the forums for sure
In reply to It was a different user, but… by Jojo-Schmitz
Before I joined the forum, I emailed Marc about this issue. He then advised me to join the forum to get feedback instead of through email. This is my first post/thread on this forum..
In reply to Before I joined the forum, I… by LuKeyz
Then another user reported the very same problem a few days ago, here in the forum too
In reply to Then another user reported… by Jojo-Schmitz
Is this perhaps?
https://musescore.org/en/node/317487
In reply to is this perhaps? https:/… by Gianni_Moggio
Yes! Thanks for digging it up
In reply to Yes! Thanks for digging it up by Jojo-Schmitz
Oh, yes! He's a friend of mine. I was posting on his behalf and didn't realize he already joined the forum and posted before me. Both of us are new users. Thanks for your help.
Hello, everyone,
I use another solution for this problem. I moved voice two to the left by 3,2 spaces and did a local relayout on the beams in both staves. Biggest advantage for me is I can now clearly see the dot in voice one and the overall spacing is tighter cause there's no need for extra space after the dot.
Thomas Sonata K141 changed.mscz