All sounds default to "MS Basic" when opening MS3.6.x scores (SOLVED)

• Jul 13, 2023 - 13:15

With the release of MS4.1 (4.1.0.231921402), MS4 no longer correctly assigns the instrument type for scores created in MS3.6.x and opened in MS4. All sounds are assigned to "MS Basic" and must be manually reset to the correct type.

Is there a setting or workaround for this? It's particularly cumbersome on larger scores.

UPDATE: Apparently the default changed. Go into 'View-->Playback Setup" and choose Muse Sounds as the active profile and the default for new scores (if you want). See the attached screenshot

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• Jul 13, 2023 - 15:38

I don't know if it has anything to do with the sounds. It seems to be that MS4.1 is not honoring the instrument selections from the previous MS version's score (MS3.6). The sounds can be manually set to the correct instruments from the mixer (e.g., Flute 1, Bassoon, ...), they just are no longer imported in correctly.

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• Jul 13, 2023 - 19:21

Can you explain what you mean in more detail, and ideally attach a score that demonstrates the problem? What would it mean to "assign the instrument type"? Are you saying it isn't selecting the correct sound from with MS Basic? It is for me in the scores I've imported.

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• Jul 13, 2023 - 19:45

Certainly. Probably not the most descriptive terminology on my part. The attached is a score created in MS3.6. The instruments are assigned Flute, Oboe, Horn, ..., Violin, ..., Cello from top to bottom. When I load this score in MS4.0x the mixer shows the correct sound names (Flute, Oboe, Horn, ..., Violin, ..., Cello) as well as the correct instrument names. When I load the score in MS4.1x, the mixer shows all sound names as "MS Basic" however, the instrument names are correct.

Does this make sense or should I send screenshots of the mixers?

Summary: MS4.0 was able to figure out that the MS3 flute should use a flute sound and assigned it the MuseSound Flute 1 but MS4.1 does not recognize it as a flute and assigns it the MS Basic sound.

Thanks!

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• Jul 13, 2023 - 20:46

MS Basic is the name of the soundfont. The Mixer doesn't show the names of the individual sounds within the soundfonts other than how it shows in the channel name, but it's using the correct sound, is it not? It is for me. This isn't a change in 4.1; it's been this way since 4.0.

Now, if you mean that in 4.0.2 Muse Sounds would be used by default for this score, that may be, but you can enable it manually here in View / Playback setup, and it recognizes the instruments correctly as always. I'm not sure if it was a deliberate change to not use Muse Sounds by default for MU3 scores or not, but I confirm that's a change, at least for this score. I'll try to look into that.

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• Jul 13, 2023 - 20:59

Yes, that is exactly as I said - the default seems to have changed from Muse Sounds to MS Basic, yes. But you don't have to reassign instruments individual - just select Msue Sounds in View / Playback setup as I said. Aain, it's perfectly normal and not a change from 4.0.2 that if MS Basic is selected, it oesn't show the sound that was chosen. But you don't have to reassign it. You just need to change the profile in Viewe / Playback setup.

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• Jul 13, 2023 - 21:31

Yes. Go to View/Playback setup and activate Muse Sounds. You will need to change all the solo string sounds to string section sounds. Why? Look at the first string label It says "Violin" (singular) because that's how MU3 labeled the 1st violins.
MU4.1 is trying to do exactly what you told it to do. Except that it can't. You told it to load a score from MU3. That score uses a font that MU4 doesn't have. So it uses a default font based on the MU3 font. But not the same.

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• Jul 13, 2023 - 21:35

Yes understand that. The issue I was trying to get across (only partially successfully) was the change that occured from MS4.0x to MS4.1x. It wasn't expected, and the remedy wasn't obvious. Thanks to Marc Sabatella for providing the solution with the playback setup active profile default. Back on track now.

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