How to rearrange notes in a measure

• Dec 21, 2023 - 19:48

I loaded in an *.musicxml file (from soundslice) into Musescore, and bass and treble notes were rearranged out of alignment. I did try to move the bass notes via shift-arrow feature, but this also automatically moved the treble note out of position. I'd appreciate some advise on how best to move bass note to lie directly underneath the treble note. This issue is pretty pervasive across the imported score, so ideally I'd like to know if there's a way to avoid this from the start.

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In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

To avoid risking a copyright concern, I went ahead and created a 1 measure score in Soundslice (*.xml) to illustrate the problem. I then exported as *.musicxml and opened it up in Musescore, and sure enough the measure read in correctly. Moreover, the Cntl-arrow feature works as expected without influencing the notes in the opposite staff. So apparently there is some corruption in the original 132 measure score.
So there seems to be two issues with the import:
1) the misplacement of the notes. Since the 1 measure test worked OK, I assume that there's a corruption somewhere else in the .xml file, which I might be able to discover by systematically eliminating measures till the problem resolves.
2) the rogue behavior of the Cntl-arrow note movement. I've attached two files that could help uncover the issue.
- Me0001_bad.mscz (measure 1 of the original imported 132 measure score)
- Me0001_good.mscz (measure 1 of the imported truncated 1 measure score)
- Me0001.xml (the .xml file of the truncated 1 measure score)
Any insight would be appreciated, but fundamentally if I can resolve issue 1, then issue 2 should be moot. But if I can't, then any means of disabling the rogue behavior of note movement would be the backup.

Thanks for your help

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In reply to by Pentatonus

I don't think it's that simple. The notes are all assigned to the bass staff and would therefore overwrite the notes that are only visible in the soprano staff but are actually assigned to the bass staff.

I would select the first four beats and assign them back to the bass staff with Ctrl+Shift+down arrow down key. Then cut and paste them into the soprano staff.

Now you can cut the remaining notes from the bass staff and paste them back on beat 1.
And then either shorten the measure from 8/4 to 4/4 or split it up or delete the excess rests - depending on what is existing in other instrument staves,

On my system the xml file loads correctly. Was it not supposed to? But in general, trying to shift notes doesn't work. Part of the problem is that rest after the treble notes is an 8 beat rest. I can't delete it without crashing the score.

In reply to by bobjp

The xml file came from my 1 measure version of the score, and yes it works OK for me as well. The full xml file (which I was reluctant to provide) was the one that generated the problem (as observed in the Me0001_bad.mscz file). This led me to conclude that the full score has a corruption in it that I don't think Musescore can identify during the import. For that, I'll try to diagnose by systematically taking out blocks of measures.
Thanks also for the suggestion about checking the beat count, it looks like a good starting point would be to look for rogue rests that are getting pulled in that don't belong...I'll go and audit the entire score to look for these. That might also explain the unexpected behavior of the the Cntl-arrow command.

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