Left-hand and Right-hand fingerings
This recent issue : http://musescore.org/en/node/35646
and http://musescore.org/fr/node/35841 (thanks and well done, very useful!), that differentiates in selecting ties and slurs, made me think right away to one of my "daily pain" about the guitar fingering!
Would it be feasible, in a similar way, in selecting, to choose either the LH fingering (numbers) either RH fingering (letters)?
As you know, these two kinds of fingerings are placed at very different places in the score (to the left, near the note head for LH, and above, most of the time (or below) for RH)
So it would be ideal to be able to move independently the RH fingering block and the LH fingering block? Thanks.
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I'm not clear on the difference between LH and RH fingerings - I guess the numbers are for one hand, the letters for the other? If they both use the same text style, then there is no way to differentiate them that I know of. But if you define things so that you use one text style for one hand and another for the other hand, then "Select / More / Same subtype" would do the trick if we enabled that option for fingerings (it currently works only for certain element types, including staff text).
This seems worth doing. And while we're at it, it would be nice to deal with the formatting of the String Number elements (which are actually plain Fingering elements but with a special text style).
I'm happy to make the necessary changes, but I still don't really understand what is desired. I remember there was also an issue discucsed regarding manual position and copy/paste that I looked at fixing but never heard if there was consensus on the proper fix.
In reply to I'm not clear on the by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for reply.
Yes, the numbers for the left hand, and the letters for the right hand.
I expressed the same idea in this thread (end of the page): http://musescore.org/fr/node/32081
regarding the possibility of using this tool "More / same subtype" to differentiate them.
To understand what is desired, look at these examples. And it is a simply score in two voices, imagine with three or four voices!
So in this example (step 1) you can see the systematic nature of collisions between numbers (left hand) and letters (right hand).
![fing1.jpg]( "fing1.jpg")
My wish is essentially to move the numbers, because it must be placed near the note heads, to the left.
![fing2.jpg]( "fing2.jpg")
But, using "all similar elements" and Ctrl + Alt, all the fingerings (numbers and letters) move together (Step 2) . Badly!
Which is not satisfactory indeed, because if left hand fingerings are now in the right place, this is no longer the case of the right hand fingerings! And it is not possible (or really very fastidious and unpleasant!) to unravel and move manually and individually each letter it back to a better place. :(
So to get the following result (step 3), I have to first enter only fingerings left hand and move them. And then I have to restart the process of re-select all the notes, and add the letters (right hand fingerings).
You understand that the opportunity, with a different style of text, and by using the (More / same subtype), allows in step 2, to move only the block of the left hand fingering.
I hope my demonstration is clear? :)
- Concerning the strings numbers, I suggested, always in the same thread, to reduce the vertical offset value (-5, default now) to -3.
- And for the copy and paste fingerings (which actually change places on the Beta1), personally, I never use. One can only copy-past only one fingering after other fingering. It's a really tedious process. It is more logical and fast (for example in the case of a repetition of a same notes section) copy and paste the whole passage including the fingerings, and in this case, copy and paste fingering works normally.
See also #34846: musicxml pluck tag is all plucked up
In reply to See also #34846: musicxml by Leon Vinken
@cadiz1, you might want to join the discussion at http://musescore.org/en/node/36846.
In reply to @cadiz1, you might want to by Leon Vinken
Thanks Leon for the invitation to join the discussion. I would do it soon. I already expressed a lot. It is (almost) useless to add. Everyone can read my thought about this issue.
So I am, initially, curious to read other opinions. And I note with interest that the proposals of Marc are welcome :)