Bug? Sound cannot stop when playing

• Feb 3, 2025 - 10:26

When plying following score at web or at musescore softwear, some sound cannot stop.
Please check test score below(You may download it)
https://musescore.com/user/26850820/scores/23267017
The file(debug.mscz) is also attached here.
If it is not bug, tell me if something I make wrong.

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Comments

In reply to by hiroxx

May be a bug. Maybe not. There is something different about the way 4.4.4 reads hairpins and staccatos. Perhaps more precise. I have no idea why your hairpin is way off to the right. It seems to be attached to the first measure. There are some things to think about:
Hairpins without a dynamic at the end may not always work. Sometimes they do. But it is always safer to add them. Also is seems MuseScore is happier if hairpins are attached to notes in between dynamics. But not including them. MuseScore is not the only software where is is the case. So in the attached score, I made my suggested changes and playback is correct. Also something is wrong with the third measure. It didn't play correctly until I selected the 2nd measure and hit "R". to copy over it.

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Thank you for your comments.
The crescendo being placed outside the staff in the initial file was due to my typing mistake. I apologize for the confusion.
I’ve attached a file where the problem occurs even when the crescendo is placed in its usual position.

In my actual score:
https://musescore.com/user/26850820/scores/22962889
as a temporary workaround, I’ve set the staccato to be display-only without playback, and instead, I’m using an invisible staccatiissimo for playback.

However, it seems that this method can also cause issues in some cases. I’ve tried various things, but I haven’t been able to confirm (non-)reproducibility.
I hope this bug will be fixed in a future update.

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In reply to by hiroxx

Here is my experience. Though no one seems to care.
Think about the bug2 score. What is it you are expecting to happen? Yes, I know you aren't expecting notes held. When I remove the staccatos I do not hear the hairpins working. Probably because Basic sounds have no idea where to start and where to end. At least in 4.4.4. A real player would have to guess. But when computer starts trying to guess....bad news. I put this score into Sibelius. It couldn't play it as written either. Oh it played the staccato notes properly. But because there is no reference for the hairpins, it ignored them. Much like MuseScore does in this case.
But wait. This used to work in earlier versions of MuseScore. So it is obviously a bug because it doesn't work now. My view is that the earlier versions were incorrect. I learned long ago in Sibelius that there most often needs to be a dynamic at the end of a hairpin. Never hurts to have one at the beginning also. And the hairpin needs to be anchored to notes in between the dynamics. Not overlap them. I know you guys are used to the following: Let's say we have a measure of an 1/8th note scale. We want that measure to start soft and get louder by the end. We might write this in two different orders. We might enter the notes, Then put a p on the first note and an f on the last. Then we might select the measure and enter a hairpin. Or after we enter the notes, we might enter the hairpin and then the dynamics. Doesn't matter, if we then enter the staccatos, there will be problems. All we had to do was enter the hairpins on notes in between the dynamics.
Is MU4 perfect? Far from it. But just like any software, I need to know the in's and out's of it. What is possible, and what isn't. It is easy to fix your bug2 without hiding anything or any trickery.

In reply to by bobjp

"Though no one seems to care"
Please, if you think you have arguments demonstrating that there is no bug and regression, please make it in the right, formal place, i.e. on GitHub, but certainly not on this forum, which is just a discussion space.

In reply to by cadiz1

That's all I'm doing. Discussing.
I really have no idea if there is a bug or not. Or just where the problem lies. Because in my work flow, I've never had this problem. That doesn't mean there is no bug. And the fact that it only happens in Basic sounds doesn't mean that there isn't a problem in Muse sounds. It's soon to be fixed anyway. For me, there are far more important things that need attention.

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