Strings rise effects
Hello ,
Is there a way to make slow and fast rises with strings ?
Thank you
Hello ,
Is there a way to make slow and fast rises with strings ?
Thank you
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If you mean volume, use the Dynamics palette: hairpins and dynamic levels: fff and ppp. If you don't mean dynamics, exactly WHAT do you mean by "rise"?
In reply to If you mean volume, use the… by TheHutch
https://youtu.be/PoXUBSRglHI?si=4w6SEWgdEljYjd8z
In reply to https://youtu.be/PoXUBSRglHI… by GyorgyGonda
I've never heard it called a "rise" but it seems an apt name.
I would say that you'll need a combination of crescendo (https://handbook.musescore.org/notation/expressive-markings/dynamics), multiple voices (https://handbook.musescore.org/basics/working-with-multiple-voices), and glissando (https://handbook.musescore.org/notation/expressive-markings/arpeggios-a…).
If you can identify how the sound is actually made by real violins, etc. (or if you already know), that might give you a hint as to how to make it in MuseScore.
[About 15 minutes later] Try this: String Rise.mscz I think that more instruments playing more notes would be better. Use all four voices of all four instruments; maybe even add another few staves with additional violins. All of them playing different notes. I don't like the chromatic glissando, but I don't like the portamento one either. Possibly worthwhile to have each instrument's glissando start at different points in time by very small amounts (like 256th note differences)
In reply to I've never heard it called a… by TheHutch
Your fix sounds better using Musesounds strings. The glissando is very smooth. Don't use MS Basic for this.
Still, the portamento plays late instead of sounding from the beginning of the measure to the beginning of the next measure. They need to devise an adjustment for this.
No idea what a rise is, either. I couldn't get Muse sounds to work at all. Try this file. Basic Strings Fast. Not violins, but strings. Portamento ends with a slap, so no good. The idea from the Hutch above about staggering the start times helps smooth out the chromatic glissando. I hear staggered starts in the You-Tube sound.
In reply to No idea what a rise is,… by bobjp
Well, well, well, thank You all for try to find a way, musescore isn't yet able to propose a way for this articulation, so I will simply use a kontakt player with soe Zero G library that have this articulation.
In reply to Well, well, well, thank You… by gondardgeorge
Don't forget that technically, MuseScore is for creating notation to be played by real players. Not for special effects. Some of the attempts were not horribly far off.
In reply to Don't forget that… by bobjp
Sur , what You call special effects is modern technics of writing music , they are notated to be play by real players as well see Penderecki , Ligeti, Lutoslawski …
In reply to Sur , what You call special… by GyorgyGonda
The notation effect is possible, glissando (portamento style for layback) and crescendo.
In reply to The notation effect is… by Jojo-Schmitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXUBSRglHI
is this possible ?
In reply to https://www.youtube.com… by gondardgeorge
Try it out, using a portamanto style glissando and crescendo
In reply to Try it out, using a… by Jojo-Schmitz
not exactly what i heard on the demo
In reply to not exactly what i heard on… by gondardgeorge
But as close at it gets.
Still MuseScore Studio is a notation software
In reply to But as close at it gets… by Jojo-Schmitz
well, if only this can be effective with strings
In reply to well, if only this can be… by gondardgeorge
There is a difference between notation and playback. In both notation software and live players. No two live groups will play the same notation the same. Same for software.
In reply to But as close at it gets… by Jojo-Schmitz
Not anymore....Y'all have painted yourselves into a corner by offering soundfonts, and Muse sounds, and VST, and symbols palette, etc. While it may have been true earlier that you're just a notation program and nothing else, it's no longer the case. Now you HAVE to supply the capability to produce whatever you have in that there symbols palette. Musescore kinda has no choice if it wants to survive and compete. Others are coming up fast.
DARTH VADER: "If you won't supply the capability, then perhaps someone else will....."
In reply to Not anymore....Y'all have… by FBXOPWKDOIR2
" Now you HAVE to supply the capability to produce whatever you have in that there symbols palette."
Good luck......
In reply to Sur , what You call special… by GyorgyGonda
@GyorgyGonda. Fair enough. Then find out how they would notate this, and do it that way. There is little likelihood that MuseScore playback will sound like you want.
In reply to Sur , what You call special… by GyorgyGonda
Exactly
In reply to Exactly by FBXOPWKDOIR2
Playback is secondary in notation software. It will never match a good DAW.