when I open a saved file, lines are not where I left them

• Jul 2, 2015 - 23:10

Hi folks!

I've been working for a while in this piece for piano and electronics. and there's a specific place in the score that intrigues me. a hundred times have I put things in the right place (as shown in the upper part of the attached figure).

But when I open the file again...

In the first measure, piano left-hand staff, you see some notes and ledger lines messed up (now i see a b sharp instead of a c sharp, but that's me spelling notes wrong not MuseScore!).

Second measure, in the electronics staff the two horizontal lines are misplaced.

And from the fourth bar on, diagonal lines are dismantled. Ok, I know that's unorthodox pedalling, intending piano pedals to be lowered slowly and, since there's nothing ready in MS for that, I had to mix up lines (horizontal and diagonal) with text (little vertical lines are simply a "|" character).

What's the mistery of this spontaneus displacements?

(I looked into "debug object" with some hope, but to no conclusion).

Thank you so mauch!!!


Comments

Hmmm. See this thread: https://musescore.org/en/node/62456

Looks like a simialr problem. Unfortunately, it seems no one was able to reproduce the problem wiht the examples posted there. Perhaps we will have more luck with your - but we would need the actual MSCZ (even just an excerpt, if the problems still occurs there). There isn't much we can do from a picture.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Hello,

For the sake of improving MuseScore (because I want to keep firmly trusting it is suitable for serious and bigger projects), I'm sending part of the score (it's actually half of it), both as .mscz and .pdf (for graphical comparison). You'll observe the issues I pointed in my last message (last system of second page).

Plus, in several places some stems (mostly in the electronics part) that become unexplainably huge (they were normal size when I put them there).

There's an extra topic: MS says measure 80 is corrupt and apparently, even having erased it and put it there again with the correct time signature doesn't satisfy our dear software. (this has happened before in another score of mine, and the described procedured solved the question).

Thank you, Marc!

In reply to by rodolfo valente

To fix the corruption: select that measure, swap voices 1 and 2, delete the tow rests in voice 2
To fix the long stems, select them, hit Ctrl+R, do the same with flags attached to them

The lines have been dragged (and quiote a lot, even so much that they go to the next page), rather than extended properly, double click them to see where they are anchored and see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/edit-mode-0#lines on how to do it right

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Hello Jojo-Schmitz,

Thank you for the swapping voices advice. It worked!

About cmd+R for the long stems, it also works. The problem is crotchets end up not looking good for my taste. Maybe if in General Style we could choose something like "minimum stem size"...

About lines... maybe one or another have invaded a next page (if you tell me where, I'd be glad), but I try to be very careful with that and no to do it (I don't know if you opening them in your computer this happens...). In Bars 43 to 49, that's where my most problematic spot is, I'm sure this does not happen. As as example, 100 times I go in the Inspector to "Horizontal displacement" and set it to zero, when I open the fil again it turned tosomething like -6,99 for instance... I've tried erasing things an seeking more reasonable anchor points but this doesn't seem to solve the spontaneous displacements...

In reply to by rodolfo valente

That horizontal displacement is for the entire line, not for any of its handles or anchors.
Just double click any of your lines and see that the blue dotted lines to their anchors are not at all vertical, but going to some place far further left or right.
Select every one of them and hit Ctrl+R, then readjust vertical offset, and doubleclick + Shift-right (or left) to change the anchor,

In reply to by rodolfo valente

Something occurs me now:

I started this score with MuseScore 2.0 beta 2. Now I'm working with 2.0.1.

So it may be that some buggy code has been inherited...

Just erased every note of the aforementioned problematic measures and rewriting them to see if possible buggy stuff goes away.

Later I tell if this "wasted land" approach lead me anywhere.

Thanks!

In reply to by rodolfo valente

After erasing and rewriting things (being careful to stretch lines by moving their anchor points, and not simply intuitively dragging edges around, as valuably advised by Jojo-Schmitz), now things seem to keep in place... Not just lines, but also those jumping-around noteheads. Thanks for the tips!

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