Hairpins and Glissando on 2.0.2

• Jul 23, 2015 - 01:39

Hi, gang!!!

I could install and use the 2.0.2 version on my "New" PC (Win 7), at office, and I could have a free time to experiment with it.

I tested the following:

1) I put a whole note at C3 (measure one), another whole note at C4 (measure two) and a glissando between the notes. I tested it with a flute, a guitar, a piano and a violin. With all those instruments I could hear a clearly and very interesting musical scale between the notes but... even it could be "acceptable" with the most of instruments, with the violin sound... mmm... it isn't the real glissando effect (a continuous pitch variable sound, not a group of individual notes). Anywhere, there is an audible variation here, but... it needs some improvements.

2) I failured about the hairpins effect from a whole note to any other. Inside that long time note, hairpin doesn't work, yet. Maybe I jumped something? ???

3) Trills and tremolo work so fine!!!

Whatever, this is a very great improved version!!! Thanks a lot to the creator team!!!

BTW: I still prefer the combination of the soundfont files: "GeneralUser GS MuseScore v1.44.sf2" and "FluidR3Mono_GM.sf3". Most of the first, plus the strings and percussion from the second. Just my taste. But... I wonder if it is possible to mix both files into only one. And I wonder if there is some "standard" agreement about the order of the instruments on the list of instruments. I mean, if I wanted to add another guitar sound between the standard nylon and steel, Will the program recognize it? ???

Greetings!!!

Juan


Comments

Glissando is indeed not continuous. Even on violin, it would not necessarily be appropriate to slide - violinists would often finger each note, depending on the style of the piece. Technically, the continuous sliding sound is a "portamento", niot a "glissando", although this distinction is not always recognzied. But anyhow, someday, maybe, a "continuous slide" aka "portamento" playback option might be implemented.

Crescnedo on a single note is not implemented either. It's a common request, but a highly complex thing to implement, so it hasn't happened yet and won't until some more fundamental changes are made to the way we work with the synthesizer.

You can certainly mix sounds into a single soundfont if you have and know how to use a soundfont editor. You just have to stick to the General MIDI standard for the numering of the instruments. So uif you want another guitar sound, you can add it somewhere else, not between two standard ones.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Yeah, you're right, Glissando isn't a real continuos slide, but it often sounds like that (starting notes of "Rhapsody in Blue" from Gershwin, for example).

BTW: Which are the "pro" standard symbol to "Portamento"?

At last, There are some symbols on the palette, curves to up and down from a note, but it seems to be just a "decorative" piece, or... Does it have some kind of playback function? ???

Greetings!!!

Juan

In reply to by jotape1960

In case you didn't know, the story about the opening of Rhapsody in Blue is that Gershwin *intended* it to be played as a true glissando with each note played individually. He even wrote it out that way, with little grace notes. But the clarinet play in rehearsal - perhaps as a joke? - played it as a portamento, and Gershwin loved it and the rest is history!

Anyhow, some times you will see the word "portamento" wirten in instead of "glissando" to make it clear that this is meant. Other times, the player is just supposed to guess from context.

I guess the last symbols you refer to are the fall, doit, plop, and scoop. I don't know what you mean by "decorative" - they serve the absolutely essential function of tellign the human player who will eventually read the score to perform those actions. But it is true that the built-in playback function does not happen to honor those. Please, do try to rememebr to keep in mind the primary purpose of MsueScore is notation, not playback. Lots of things work perfectly with respect to notation and serve a very real function but don't happen to playback; that doesn't mean they are "just decorative".

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Oh, I see.

Sorry, Marc!!!

The fact is that I'm, essentially, a christian musician (at my church, as choir director and quartets "trainer"), and those symbols aren't too much used (if they are used) on that context. SO, I really didn't know too much about them, out of MuseScore.

Maybe more used on Jazz? ???

Greetings!!!

Juan

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