Whole Rests Off-Center

• Mar 23, 2011 - 12:44

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but when a measure has no notes in 4/4 time, it's got a whole rest in the center of the measure. If I am inputting notes and manually put a whole rest in a measure, it is off-center to the left.

You can see in the graphic that the three measures in the bottom staff have their whole rests centered, but in the middle measure of the top staff (where I pushed zero and inserted a whole rest), the rest is to the left in the measure.

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Sometimes I have ended up with two whole rests after deleting all notes in a bar. Usually I just see a messy combination of eigth, quarter and half rests adding up to a whole.

Basically, it's because there is a difference in MuseScore (and in music notation in general I believe) between a full measure rest and a whole rest.
To have a full measure rest, select the measure and press Del.
To enter a whole rest, select the whole note duration and press 0.

In reply to by Nicolas

But I seem to recall that in previous versions of MuseScore prior to 1.0 that the whole rest was also centered in the measure. I was just wondering what changed, if it was intentional or not, and if it was, why.

I'm just very picky about the way my music looks, and the off-center whole rests drive me crazy. I go back, select those measures, and hit delete to make it look right, but that's an extra step.

In reply to by Nicolas

I've just spent the last half hour reading about whole, half and whole-measure rests and their "appropriate" use in specific time signatures. It's not an area I've needed to go into much and basically I'm still very confused. There is not one unified school of thought, esp in compound time signatures, but the use (and display) of a whole-measure and whole-note rest in 4/4 time should be and look the same. There's nothing else that can be in the measure so there's no point in keeping it over to the right of the measure. Picky, but that condition should be detected and the whole-note rest moved to a properly-centered whole-measure rest.

Interesting effect when you write something in 6/4 time... you can have a mixture of bars with whole-note/half-note rests and whole-measure rests.

Update: I realize that with the use of multiple voices, the difference between a whole rest and a whole-measure rest becomes obvious. Assuming for the moment that the measure is entirely empty, then there's no functional difference between a whole and a whole-measure rest.

In reply to by schepers

schepers, another situation where you would need a whole (semi-breve) rest instead of the full-measure (full-bar) rest is a pickup with an actual duration of 2/2 but a nominal time signature such as 4/2

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