Articulations and trpt mute not working 2.0

• Apr 23, 2015 - 13:28

On playback dynamics play well, but various articulations do not. Sostenutos,
crescendos, staccatos etc. How do I get these to play back. Also, I have
followed instructions for trumpet mute but nothing opens up giving options
when I right click the inserted text. I want to use a muted trumpet. I put
the text above the trumpet "mute" right click it and no options show in the drop down box (which shows voices 1-4). Your example is pizzicato for strings. Can you help me here? Also, I want to set
the tempo to 165. I have to set it each time I open the score because it
automatically reverts to 120. I am new to MuseScore so I'm probably missing
things, but I do believe I read everything and still can't make my small
problems go away. Please help.


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In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Okay, I did as suggested (trumpet mute) and when I right click for Staff Text Properties I see nothing but "normal" on all channels, no option to change to trumpet mute. Should it be called something else other than trumpet mute? What am I doing wrong. And for text properties where on your site can I find the correct text for "mute" and many others. Thank you.

In reply to by jeffkauf

First off, you need to have created 'Trumpet' as the instrument in your score. You cannot simply change the sound in the mixer from some other instrument to trumpet and expect to have the mute channel available in the score playback.

Once you have created the trumpet part - or changed an existing instrument to trumpet via Staff Properties (not via the mixer) - you can follow the instructions here:
https://musescore.org/en/node/35961#mid-staff-change.

To answer your earlier question, you type the word 'mute' as staff text above the note where you want the mute to begin.

When you right click the (mute) staff text and get to Staff Text Properties, you must expand the drop down box that says 'normal' so you can see the 'mute' channel.
Besides selecting 'mute', you must be sure to select the voice you want the 'mute' applied to. Assuming you have only entered notes for a single trumpet, you would select Voice 1.
Look carefully as you toggle the voice buttons. The difference between 'on' and 'off' is very subtle:

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Regards.

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Also, staccato *does* play back, and so does crescendo, except for crescendo on a single note. At least it does for scores created from scratch within MuseScore 2.0 - not necessarily for scores imported from other sources. If that is the case for you, just delete the markings created by that other program and re-enter them.,

if you have a score created within MuseScore 2.0 where this doesn't seem to be working, please post the score you are having problems with and say where the problem is. Probably someone will be able to figure out what might be preventing it from working with that particular score.

I do believe I've done everything correctly and still when I right click the text properties "mute" nothing is available to choose. I am giving the link to the score which I uploaded to MuseScore. It is bar 128. Also how do I reduce the size of certain measures to the size of all the others without changing any other measure such as bar 28 and 50. Also note I cannot get any of the sostenutos to act as sostenutos. Is there anything to be done about this? Thanks for your help. This is a work in progress. Thanks, Jeffrey Kaufman https://musescore.com/user/2330496/scores/813586

In reply to by jeffkauf

As mentioned earlier, you need to set the actual instrument to trumpet, not just the sound in the mixer. I assume this was created via import from some other program; had you created the score from scratch in MuseScore, this would have worked out of the box. But as it is, you need to right click the staff anmd go to Staff Properties, then Change Instrument to change it from "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" to "Bb Trumpet". Once you do that, then MuseScore will know the staff is for a trumpet and the mute option will become available.

In measure 28, the problem is that you have a page break there. Not sure why; maybe this was added by the other program that created this score originally? Probably best to delete all the line and page breaks that the other program inserted and let MuseScore manage layout.

Not sure what you mean by sostenuto - piano sostenuto pedal? - or what you mean by "act as sostenutos", but do keep in mind MuseScore is a *notation* program first and foremost. Not all markings that can be placed in a score to tell a human performer how to play the score are necessarily recognized by the built in playback facility.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Okay, "then Change Instrument to change it from "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" to "Bb Trumpet".
THIS WAS THE PROBLEM. I changed it and the mute works. I know musescore is for notation not playback, however the "mute" on playback is pretty lame, but it does differentiate from an open trumpet sound. I will now work on some of the other problems using your advice. Sostenuto, not piano pedal is the term for an extended "hold" on a note, regardless of instrument. Sostenuto is available in the "articulations" it simply is not working in my score, but that can be because I originally transferred the score from Finale Notepad which can be the reason for most of my problems. Thanks again.

In reply to by jeffkauf

There are of course many different types of trumept mutes. The version in the default soundfont sounds like a Harmon mute to me, not really the right type of mute for the style of your piece. Probably there exist other soundfonts you could download that would provide other mute options - straight mute is probably more appropriate for your piece. Or maybe you'd prefer a cup or bucket or some other type of mute.

I'm still not clear on what you mean by sostenuto. Maybe you maybe are referrng to *tenuto* - the dash that is eighth on the palette? This won't sound like it is doing anything because playback is *already* as legato as it can be given that there are not separate sounds for slurred passages so everything is tongued. And I suspect it is really *slurred* sound you are trying talking about. That's normally created with a slur marking, not a tenuto marking, but either way, again, there are not separate tongued and slurred sounds available, so that is not going to work either. That's pretty much life wtih synthesized instruments unless you get into custom processing with DAW software, although I am still trying to figure out a way to get some semblance of this into a future release, as it is high priority for me too in my own music.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Hello Marc,

No, sostenuto is the marking you see over the U in MuseScore. I know my terms well and sostenuto is the one I am referring to. Anyway, as I delve deeper into this program I am sure I will find all sorts of interesting things and methods and I am sure I will be back to you. Thanks for your help. Best.

In reply to by jeffkauf

Temrs are not always standardized. What is common in whatever part of the world you live in or the specific musical genre you mostly are familiar with might not be so common in other contexts.

The most common English term for the symbol you refer to is *fermata*, not sostenuto, although I can easily believe that in some parts other terms might be used. Anyhow, this symbol does playback in MuseScore, but you have to tell MuseScore explicitly how much "time stretch" you want using the Inspector.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Hi Marc, you are quite right, the more precise term here would indeed be a "fermata". Again, thank you for your assistance. In time, if I choose to continue using MuseScore as opposed to several others including Finale and/or Sibelius, you will surely hear from me again.

Jeffrey Kaufman

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