Scoring for Oboe and English Horn
When in regular pitch the Oboe shows 3 flats in the key signature, while the English Horn shows 4 flats. When I switch to concert pitch, they both show 3 flats.
But when scoring the two instruments together, when I come to a passage where the Oboe is playing "D", the English Horn is playing a "Db". The score I am transcribing (from orchestra to band) shows 3 flats for the Oboe and only 2 flats for the English Horn.
Is there a way to fix this in Musescore ver. 1.2?
Thanks,
harris128
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I'm not really understanding the problem you are describing. The English horn is a transposing instrument; it is *supposed* to be written a fifth higher than it sounds, which key signature adjusted accordingly (one fewer flat / one more sharp). Only when "Concert Pitch" is enabled should you expect to see pitches displayed as sounding. This should all be set up for you automatically when you created your score. Soinds like you perhaps tried to manually change the key signatures? Nt sure. culd you post a sample score and describe how you created it? eg, did you use the new score wizard to create the score from scratch or from a template, or did you import the file via MusicXML, MIDi, or some other format, etc?
In reply to I'm not really understanding by Marc Sabatella
Marc, thanks for replying. I am in the process of arranging Schostakovic Sym. No. 7, 1st Mvmt. for Symphonic Band.
The orchestral score starts out in A minor (no sharps or flats) and the Eng. Horn is scored with 1 sharp.
The movement changes to Eb Major, with 3 flats, but the Eng. Horn Part has 4 flats, whereas the orchestral score has the Eng. Horn part with 2 flats.
harris128
In reply to Eng. Horn by harris128
Right, but as I said, how did you create the score? And it would help if you would post it. I'm guessing you created the key change incorrectly and that's why it is incorrect. Best way to create key changes in a score for transposing instruments is to be in Concert Pitch mode and then drag the concert pitch key signature to all staves.
In reply to Right, but as I said, how did by Marc Sabatella
Marc, Here is a page from the orchestral score that I am arranging for symphonic band.
Notice 3rd and 4th lines from top are oboe, then Eng. Horn, the Oboe is in 3 flats, and the Eng. Horn is in 2 flats.
But when I used the concert band template and chose the key signature of 3 flats, the key signature for the Eng. Horn was displayed as 2 flats.
harris128
In reply to oboe - eng. horn by harris128
I meant, it would help to post the actual MuseScore file (.mscz). But actually, it now seems you are describing something different, and I don't see the problem. The score you are trying to copy has the English horn with two flats, and you just said that's what MuseScore did too. So I am not understanding what you are wanting to be different. That's why, again, seeing your actual score would help.
In reply to I meant, it would help to by Marc Sabatella
If you go back a couple of posts Marc, you will see that the issue is that MuseScore entered a key signature of 4 flats for the cor and not 2 flats for a mid piece key signature change.
But I agree, without seeing the MuseScore file it's not possible to hep with this.
In reply to If you go back a couple of by ChurchOrganist
Well I fixed the problem, I think. When I started to arrange the piece for band, I did not have the Eng. Horn part included, since it does not show up for some in the arrangement. So I added it after the fact, and accepted the key signature as okay. Then when I noticed the problem, I changed the key signature to the correct one and now all is good. Sorry for all the fuss.
harris128
In reply to oboe and eng. horn by harris128
Yes it is a known and annyong problem that MuseScreo 1.2 does not use the same key sig on added stafes as on the one added at the beginning. Threw me off quite often...